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heres the dilema,
i need kontakt [or instruction for any sampler] to trigger successive samples from one key. for example;

i have an accappela. i've chopped it into words either by "recycling" it or manually cutting it up. i want to be able to hit, say, C3 and hear the first sample [or word], then hit C3 again and hear the second sample, then C3 again and hear the 3rd, and so on, going thru the entire series of words, in order. is this possible?

if so, is it also possible to loop each sample? ie, if i hit C3 and hold it down, it will keep retriggering until i hit and hold C3 again and the next sample loops until i release it. i've been trying to get this to work for a litle while, and i know that it has to be my lack of understanding that is preventing me from doing it.

thanks,

onyx

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Why not just map the individual words/phrases to different keys? I'm not understanding your need to have the same key trigger different samples at different times.
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I think this is the so called "cycle round robin" function in Kontakt, never used it, but it should work as you describe.
cheers.autoy

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autoy wrote:I think this is the so called "cycle round robin" function in Kontakt, never used it, but it should work as you describe.
This is correct. Just put each part on a seperate "Group" and it will work as you wish it to.
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Alan Lastufka wrote:This is correct. Just put each part on a seperate "Group" and it will work as you wish it to.
do the groups have to be stacked onto one key, or can they be spread out over a keyrange? and do i have to do anything special in the [group start options] section?

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Group start options - you have to set each group to Cycle Round Robin and then put them in order (1, 2, 3, 4)...

The groups stretch across the entire keyboard there is no such thing as a group for one key only.

So, if you have three groups, you need EVERY key to have three.
Alan Lastufka | www.BelaDMedia.com
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I am genuinely curious about why you would want to do this round-robin sample mapping instead of to separate keys.

onyx, what does this allow you to do?
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onyxashanti wrote:i need kontakt [or instruction for any sampler] to trigger successive samples from one key.
RGC's sfz will do this for you perfectly (and it's free!)

All you need to do is knock together a patch that makes use of the seq_length and seq_position opcodes as well as setting the loop_mode command to get your words repeating.

And example would be:

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<group> key=c3 seq_length=3
<region> sample=phrase 1.wav seq_position=1
<region> sample=phrase 2.wav seq_position=2
<region> sample=phrase 3.wav seq_position=2
…the above patch (when saved as a text file with the .sfz extension) should cycle between the 3 samples (Phrase 1, Phrase 2, etc.) each time C3 is pressed.

Making sfz patches is a little nerdy (no GUI) but it's perfect for the sort of thing you described!

Plus, for your remix you could use the random function instead. Instant Bowie-esque wordplay! :wink:

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Ahhhh... So the reason for doing this is to achieve the elusive Bowie Effect! It all becomes clear now! :D
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