These new mega-workstations?
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
I checked out the NAMM promo videos for both the new Alesis Fusion and Korg OASYS, and I wonder if the target market are only people doing television work. They all just sound like generic commercial/TV filler to me, can't see why anyone would want it for anything but the most generic programming.
Am I on the mark, or is there something more I'm missing? Can't see these aimed at touring musicians as they are freaking huge. That Fusion looks like its about six feet long. I could see the benefit I guess if I were a Paul Schaeffer-type banging out the straight and narrow on late night TV, or if I had to soundtrack a mutual fund commercial, but honestly these do not to me seem aimed at making my own music (even if I were in the market financially for such a thing).
Anyone wish to rush to their defence and unravel the mystery for me?
Am I on the mark, or is there something more I'm missing? Can't see these aimed at touring musicians as they are freaking huge. That Fusion looks like its about six feet long. I could see the benefit I guess if I were a Paul Schaeffer-type banging out the straight and narrow on late night TV, or if I had to soundtrack a mutual fund commercial, but honestly these do not to me seem aimed at making my own music (even if I were in the market financially for such a thing).
Anyone wish to rush to their defence and unravel the mystery for me?
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Stupid American Pig Stupid American Pig https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=4753
- KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
maybe some people like spending 7 grand on a keyboard? 
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- KVRAF
- 1981 posts since 26 Oct, 2003 from Toronto
It's a tax write off for gigging keyboardists and justifies session players scale. 
I think it's really crazy for them to come out like they're going to win us back. Heck, if I was going to do a gig or tour - OpenLabs Neko and Receptor all the way!
I think it's really crazy for them to come out like they're going to win us back. Heck, if I was going to do a gig or tour - OpenLabs Neko and Receptor all the way!
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- KVRAF
- 2172 posts since 14 Feb, 2003
There's a 61 key version...shamann wrote:That Fusion looks like its about six feet long.
I think the idea has its potential customers (even if its a decade late...), and I do think you can do serious work, in practically any genre, on either the OASYS or the Fusion. Remember, its not the paint brush, its the artist.
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- KVRAF
- 7886 posts since 24 Feb, 2003 from Earth, USA
One could also say if you think the sounds are generic, you aren't being creative enough.
I think too many of us from 'around these parts' already have too much in the ol' arsenal to take some of these products seriously. Now if you're just getting started, or need to round out your collection...
And as much as people like to argue, to me, hardware still has a 'polish' to it that's usually not 'quite' there in software. That doesn't go for everything, mind you...
(Oh, and don't get your panties in a wad over this. You guys all know how much I love software too.
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Devon
And as much as people like to argue, to me, hardware still has a 'polish' to it that's usually not 'quite' there in software. That doesn't go for everything, mind you...
(Oh, and don't get your panties in a wad over this. You guys all know how much I love software too.
Devon
Simple music philosophy - Those who can, make music. Those who can't, make excuses.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
But I'm not against hardware, just the "do everything only not as well as more limited devices" behemoths I think are stupid. You'd be crazy to shell out $7000 just to be 'creative.' You could do that easily for free. These things aren't about unleashing the artist within, there aimed at a specific pro market. But outside of TV hack work, who would want them?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
Yet still stinky.
(sorry I was excluding the Fusion in my price declaration. I gather the est. price for the Korg thing is upwards of $7000)
In some of the NAMM videos, the guy would say "You just got to hear this great piano" and then they'd play some dreadful sounding piano, that would have sounded crappy by hardware standards of 5 years ago.
I don't get it, obviously. So some people really like these workstations?
(sorry I was excluding the Fusion in my price declaration. I gather the est. price for the Korg thing is upwards of $7000)
In some of the NAMM videos, the guy would say "You just got to hear this great piano" and then they'd play some dreadful sounding piano, that would have sounded crappy by hardware standards of 5 years ago.
I don't get it, obviously. So some people really like these workstations?
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 24 Mar, 2004
I was at NAMM watching the guys trying to push the OASYS. They were incredibly enthusiastic, and i was totally unimpressed. They also had keyoardists performing on them the whole time, who were playing the most god-awful recycled Yanni bullshit you've ever heard. I laughed. I cried.
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neverwhere2012 neverwhere2012 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=23348
- KVRist
- 420 posts since 30 Apr, 2004 from grand rapids, michigan
for some reason, to me at least, most korg piano just sounds like M1 piano regurgitated with a better reverb on it than last year.shamann wrote:Yet still stinky.
(sorry I was excluding the Fusion in my price declaration. I gather the est. price for the Korg thing is upwards of $7000)
In some of the NAMM videos, the guy would say "You just got to hear this great piano" and then they'd play some dreadful sounding piano, that would have sounded crappy by hardware standards of 5 years ago.
I don't get it, obviously. So some people really like these workstations?
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- Banned
- 590 posts since 20 Jan, 2003
i don't know if i understand the subject of this thread
if i was very very very rich, those kind who don't know where to spend the money, yes i would have them all, and this persons exist, so here's a reason to create them even if a decade delayed than there's all that about, who does it bigger and better
if i was very very very rich, those kind who don't know where to spend the money, yes i would have them all, and this persons exist, so here's a reason to create them even if a decade delayed than there's all that about, who does it bigger and better
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neverwhere2012 neverwhere2012 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=23348
- KVRist
- 420 posts since 30 Apr, 2004 from grand rapids, michigan
i'm sure we'll see BT in the next issue of Remix babbling about how he sold off his entire studio because the Korg OASYS is the best thing since the polio vaccine.

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- KVRAF
- 2172 posts since 14 Feb, 2003
This person does indeed exist. I forget her name, but she lives in Washington State and owns hundreds of synths...hjack wrote:have them all, and this persons exist,
Hundreds of them.
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- KVRAF
- 7886 posts since 24 Feb, 2003 from Earth, USA
Gee, there's plenty of things out there that are aimed at the pro market. Don't see anything wrong with them either.shamann wrote:But I'm not against hardware, just the "do everything only not as well as more limited devices" behemoths I think are stupid. You'd be crazy to shell out $7000 just to be 'creative.' You could do that easily for free. These things aren't about unleashing the artist within, there aimed at a specific pro market. But outside of TV hack work, who would want them?
Shamann, I kinda get what you're aiming at, but not quite? It's a flagship product, just like the Chevy Corvette. Even if it doesn't sell well, its features I'm positive will end up in future products to come. The original PCI Korg Oasys proved that one.
Devon
Simple music philosophy - Those who can, make music. Those who can't, make excuses.
Read my VST reviews at Traxmusic!
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