Maybe because they are analogue boxes? I agree that they sound a bit more "vivid" but I'm one that doesn't like the sans-amp sound itself that much. At least not for straight recording.
Cheers!
bManic
AMPLITUBE 2 !!
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- KVRAF
- 2247 posts since 13 Dec, 2003
What about this!
Demo file recorded by me
Guitar pluged direct into AMT Tube Platinium then Behringer mixer and Sound Card in.
http://www.cmusicforum.com/dimitar/Tube ... moRock.mp3
Tube Platinum TPL - is a valve distortion with deep over-amplification effect and Combo emulation.
Demo file recorded by me
Guitar pluged direct into AMT Tube Platinium then Behringer mixer and Sound Card in.
http://www.cmusicforum.com/dimitar/Tube ... moRock.mp3
Tube Platinum TPL - is a valve distortion with deep over-amplification effect and Combo emulation.
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- KVRAF
- 11375 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Thing is, you can't really get the whole truth from audio demos. A real amp's beauty is in how it reacts to playing, to the dynamics. It's like pianos too, you can have a piano that has beautiful sound but horrible action (like some really old pianos..). The "feeling" of the responce is VITAL to how a guitarist plays.. well, atleast vital to me. This is where 99% of the digital wannabe amps fail, completely and the nr1 reason I didn't like the POD.
Edit: that clips sounds quite ok to me though if that's the kind of sound somebody wants. I'm more for the "only slightly distorted crunchy" sounds.
Cheers!
bManic
Edit: that clips sounds quite ok to me though if that's the kind of sound somebody wants. I'm more for the "only slightly distorted crunchy" sounds.
Cheers!
bManic
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- KVRist
- 452 posts since 22 Mar, 2002
The reason why I use a Pod XT or amplitube is the same reason my mate uses the B4 instead of a real life B3 in his studio.
elbaggio.com
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- KVRian
- 548 posts since 5 Jun, 2002 from way back when...
A friend of mine had the VOX ToneLab and the ultimate conclusion was it was really crap. We tried to use it to record directly into my board and it was extremely thin sounding, and worse, the distortion was terrible. You'd think that with the tube and all it would be warm and fuzzy, but it was tinny and weak, more like radio static laid over the signal chain. I don't know, maybe he just never learned to program it properly (and that was a nightmare as far as I could see) but I was amazed at how bad even most of the presets sounded.
And while Trash is a very cool plug and capable of some very convincing models as well as great other-worldly sounds, it's way too processor intensive to run at low latencies required for real-time modeling.
And while Trash is a very cool plug and capable of some very convincing models as well as great other-worldly sounds, it's way too processor intensive to run at low latencies required for real-time modeling.
Now Somewhat Retired
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- TopModernGeezer
- 2679 posts since 14 Mar, 2001 from Stuttgart, Germany
huiuiuiuiuiuiui ..IK Support wrote: Hey, here are the links.
http://trio.harmony-central.com/ramgen/ ... liTube2.rm
http://trio.harmony-central.com/ramgen/ ... K-Ampeg.rm
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
I am not the only one who heard it. Thousands of people did all weekend. You can say what you want. I am partial as you know (it's not secret). But, I never went nuts talking about AT1 this way just because SR works with IK so much. It's won a lot of awards and I like it a lot. But, AT2 is LOVE! I mean really love it and the claims that it sounds good are from years experience owning many of the real thing vintage amps and stomp boxes. I am one who has always felt that to be a versatile producer of rock music you have to have available to you certain signature sounds that you only get from the flavors of vintage pedals and certain amps like the AC30 and Marshalls or Fenders... To me this is the closest it has gotten and for the first time I am willing to use it instead of the real amps for any kind of final released recording.
Nearly every musician I met at the NAMM show from hard rock players to funk and R&B wants to use AT2. Even Tony Levin wants to use the Ampeg SVX and... I could go on and on and on listing real cases of musician's genuine desire to use these two plug-ins on their next recordings.
So, anyone with an "I'm an engineer who knows what is possible and what is not with maths" can take keep their snobby attitude and let it limit them all they want. A musician listens to the sound and it doesn't matter if it came out of a transistor radio or if it came out of golden pipes- if it sounds good and is musical then you can USE IT! If you don't want to because you don't like the "maths" then don't. You'd be missing out that's all.
But, really, it doesn't need any defense. It clearly speaks for itself. It's awesome and I know almost everyone will get it. If AT1 sold as well as it did this will blow it away. It has to. It's the same price and it is so many times better. Some of you know me and trust me that I wouldn't steer anyone wrong. I don't RAVE about a product that isn't considered good by most professional musicians and producers. I don't expect everyone to agree though. I do know some people's tastes on here (which are similar to mine) and I am telling you, man, it is getting GOOD for virtual effects!
Nearly every musician I met at the NAMM show from hard rock players to funk and R&B wants to use AT2. Even Tony Levin wants to use the Ampeg SVX and... I could go on and on and on listing real cases of musician's genuine desire to use these two plug-ins on their next recordings.
So, anyone with an "I'm an engineer who knows what is possible and what is not with maths" can take keep their snobby attitude and let it limit them all they want. A musician listens to the sound and it doesn't matter if it came out of a transistor radio or if it came out of golden pipes- if it sounds good and is musical then you can USE IT! If you don't want to because you don't like the "maths" then don't. You'd be missing out that's all.
But, really, it doesn't need any defense. It clearly speaks for itself. It's awesome and I know almost everyone will get it. If AT1 sold as well as it did this will blow it away. It has to. It's the same price and it is so many times better. Some of you know me and trust me that I wouldn't steer anyone wrong. I don't RAVE about a product that isn't considered good by most professional musicians and producers. I don't expect everyone to agree though. I do know some people's tastes on here (which are similar to mine) and I am telling you, man, it is getting GOOD for virtual effects!
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- KVRAF
- 1617 posts since 2 Dec, 2003
well i just had a look at the demos and i have to say i am impressed. i don't plan on selling my pod or anything but it was better than i expected. so congrats for creating a great sounding product, and i look foward to getting amplitude le w/ t2 for use with drums and stuff 
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Keeping in mind, of course, that the videos of the demo won't -sound- like anything. Can't wait for the demos.
I'm a fairly 'trusting' kind of guy, though I'm also intelligent enough to make my own decisions. I can say without reservation that I trust Squids and believe in his enthusiasm for this product. I wouldn't pay that much money for it without testing it for myself first (and I'm sure he'd also encourage me to do so), but it's this kind of recommendation that sparks the imagination in the first place.
I, for one, am happy to see a vendor who is enthusiastic about a product he has a connection with. I think you'll find that in ANY area in which there is a commercial product (automotive sales... box-springs and mattresses... kitchen appliances), a salesperson's enthusiasm can make or break a client's decision. Sure, enthusiasm can be manufactured, but many of us ARE intelligent enough to discern between overblown (and therefore untrustworthy) hype, and genuine excitement.
I'll be checking this one out as soon as I can get my grubby little mitts on a demo.
Greg
I'm a fairly 'trusting' kind of guy, though I'm also intelligent enough to make my own decisions. I can say without reservation that I trust Squids and believe in his enthusiasm for this product. I wouldn't pay that much money for it without testing it for myself first (and I'm sure he'd also encourage me to do so), but it's this kind of recommendation that sparks the imagination in the first place.
I, for one, am happy to see a vendor who is enthusiastic about a product he has a connection with. I think you'll find that in ANY area in which there is a commercial product (automotive sales... box-springs and mattresses... kitchen appliances), a salesperson's enthusiasm can make or break a client's decision. Sure, enthusiasm can be manufactured, but many of us ARE intelligent enough to discern between overblown (and therefore untrustworthy) hype, and genuine excitement.
I'll be checking this one out as soon as I can get my grubby little mitts on a demo.
Greg
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Yes, you can totally tell if enthusiasm is fake or not. I don't have time for pretending to like anything. I feel sorry for anyone who does. But, I am sure most of you can tell the difference. Or at the very least with 5,000+ posts under my belt here I think anyone who reads what I say and how I say it knows what substance might back up my excitement. For one thing, I collect stomp boxes and I sent a bunch over to Italy to get modeled and that's my Fuzzface in there! It sounds practically just like it to me as well as the CE1 Chorus. Those two pedals alone cost me over $500 btw. So, forgive me if I am a little excited about unlimited instances of my favorite tones? Maths or no maths, it sounds really good. Software will probably never sound EXACTLY like the real thing. But, getting close and capturing a lot of the character of it is what is expected of good software emulations.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Not to mention all the other equipment (and the studio space) that's part of properly recording an amp sound. Bad equipment and a bad space will still quickly screw up the way a great amp sounds "on tape."
Greg
Greg
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- KVRAF
- 2247 posts since 13 Dec, 2003
to All POD maniacs.
I think Amplitude is awayyy more natural sounding from
POD or V-AMp or Guitar Rig. it is not Marshall
or Mesa.
What is "POD" = "convertor" + Software.
What is your Computer = I/O s with 24-bit / 96 kHz + Software
I own Amplitube 1
. I promise to all sceptic here.I'll post some of my Guitar Solos from my album
recorded with Amplitube.
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- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from nowhere you believe in
indeed.. its just not worth the money and trouble,Lunch Money wrote:Not to mention all the other equipment (and the studio space) that's part of properly recording an amp sound. Bad equipment and a bad space will still quickly screw up the way a great amp sounds "on tape."
Greg