I understand what yr saying, hink...just trying to articulate that my own perception was that Hendrix seemed to create an entire genre, if you will. I know that the brits had a scene that he was able to tap into but that guitar playing somehow changed as a result of Hendrix. Clapton definately achieved deity status with Creme -certainly by the time of Disreili Gears...Page and Beck were guitarists' guitarists but it felt to me like Hendrix's success spawned the whole heavy metal thing...and perhaps the influenced Clapton in Creme as well.
As a side note, interesting how all the guitarists you mentioned were in the Yardbirds.
Jimi Hendrix Experience?
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- KVRAF
- 1927 posts since 30 Oct, 2003 from Frolicking in Dirac's Ocean
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- KVRist
- 133 posts since 22 Apr, 2004
i won't get in to this whole who's better/more important than who sort of debates, but will just say this
1. whoever thinks Mitch is a shit drummer should try to learn more about drumming.
2. whoever can't recognise Queen's musical talent should get his ears examined.
3. Hendrix? all the talk about historical significance, musical talent and technical competency aside, i'm sure 99% of population could at least agree that he ROCKS?
1. whoever thinks Mitch is a shit drummer should try to learn more about drumming.
2. whoever can't recognise Queen's musical talent should get his ears examined.
3. Hendrix? all the talk about historical significance, musical talent and technical competency aside, i'm sure 99% of population could at least agree that he ROCKS?
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- KVRian
- 1460 posts since 26 Nov, 2002
Jimi Hendrix Experience was a great recording Band, sporadic as a live act, Jimi was a great showman and had the chops but spent too much time being Jimi Hendrix to really shine IMO. No focus. Mitch Mitchell was a great Jazz drummer and I have to agree with others here that he added alot to the sound of the band, It probably would not have sounded the same without him. Noel Readding was ok on bass but Jack Bruce in Cream was the Bassist at the time, Nobody could touch him. If he was in the Experience it would have been the best three piece ever. 
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- KVRist
- 45 posts since 20 Jun, 2003 from new york, new york
alternate tunings=john fahey
I cannot play an instrument. I cannot remember melodies. I cannot sing. I have bad timing. I know way too little about counterpoint.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
not by accident I can assure you, my generation yah know. Everyone knows my favorite guitarist is Gary Moore (no he wasn't in the yardbirds, I know) if you have ever heard his shape of things live you'll understand why I say it may be the best guitar song live ever...As a side note, interesting how all the guitarists you mentioned were in the Yardbirds.
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRAF
- 3125 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia
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- KVRAF
- 2608 posts since 26 Aug, 2002 from here
do you wanna hear the 1968 hendrix and bruce jams - exactly the line up you suggested - sounds better on paper than it actually isSoniccat wrote: Noel Readding was ok on bass but Jack Bruce in Cream was the Bassist at the time, Nobody could touch him. If he was in the Experience it would have been the best three piece ever.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
He came to Mars for a clinic...nice guy too..unlike Nuno who came to another store I worked at...he was an ass the whole time...Billy Sheehan also spent a day in our store, he signed the first Talas album (vinyl) for me, he also bought a bass pre-amp (used) from me...it was cool having Billy Sheehan messing about with bass guitars allday. That night he had a question answer session (Nuno was there at a table, for an exact length of time, only to sign autographs That was right when he did that horrid morning widow band thing or whatever it's called a few years ago) and he had a drummer and guitar player and they did a couple songs...SFX wrote:Whoever = Steve Smith, another brilliant drummer.soulata wrote:MMW.
or that Scott Henderson/Vic Wooten/Whoever trio.
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRAF
- 2217 posts since 15 Jul, 2003
jees, did I fail to mention my low opinion of Mitch Mitchell was a personal opinion?
Tony Williams from that era drove me up the wall as well -- busy, busy, busy
i liked the other usual icons of that time: Baker, Bonham, Moon
back then i really like Jim Capaldi of Traffic -- so maybe that sort of tasty minimal fills is more to my taste, and, of course Kreutzmann, more than Hart.
just another unreasonable personal opinion
Tony Williams from that era drove me up the wall as well -- busy, busy, busy
i liked the other usual icons of that time: Baker, Bonham, Moon
back then i really like Jim Capaldi of Traffic -- so maybe that sort of tasty minimal fills is more to my taste, and, of course Kreutzmann, more than Hart.
just another unreasonable personal opinion
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fishbowl.tucson.az fishbowl.tucson.az https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=45536
- KVRist
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- 415 posts since 23 Oct, 2004
Ernie Isley, of the Isley Brothers. Seriously. That's where Jimi learned his chops.so who were jimi's influences
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- KVRAF
- 4878 posts since 13 Jun, 2002 from Montreal
This is all very amusing. Just remember to keep Hendrix's contribution in historical context. It makes no sense to suggest he would have been unsuccesful if he appeared on the scene later. (What would Watson and Crick whave done if they were active 20 years later?) 
Hendrix in a large part was the architect of that scene.
I remember when "Are You Experienced" came out - it made a huge impact. I was stunned by that record. Every rock-oriented guitarplayer(and some classical players as well) have told me Hendrix was a powerful influence on them. Zappa was even affected by Jimi - had him over to the house too. There is a reason I find teenagers today still dig Third Stone from the Sun and Voodoo chile, Slight Return... I feel sorry for those that can't hear why.
Hendrix in a large part was the architect of that scene. I remember when "Are You Experienced" came out - it made a huge impact. I was stunned by that record. Every rock-oriented guitarplayer(and some classical players as well) have told me Hendrix was a powerful influence on them. Zappa was even affected by Jimi - had him over to the house too. There is a reason I find teenagers today still dig Third Stone from the Sun and Voodoo chile, Slight Return... I feel sorry for those that can't hear why.
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Muzik 4 Machines Muzik 4 Machines https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=9550 - KVRAF
- 7829 posts since 6 Oct, 2003 from Quebec
stop talking shit, he was one of the best drummer of all time!!!!!wrench45us wrote:Hendrix had one of the worst drummers in the rock era. It's very hard to listen to some songs. Thrashing loud and off the beat more than should have gotten onto any record, esp. 1st album. -- Did get better
I'm less qualified to discuss the bass player, but really no great shakes.
Hendrix -- without peer.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
why? I admit it's opinion, but I'm sure the same can be said about almost any band that achieved fame....ask any of them and they'll all say the samething....when it omes to "making it" the most important things are luck and being at the right place at the right time...if Hendrix appeared on the scene ten years after his death with his style that made him famous he would of been up against the likes of evh and Randy, plus many others....surely you're not suggesting that innovations made by Hendrix would not of been discovered by anyone but him and if he didn't emerge like he did no one else would stepped in his place...plahlease he was just a man, not a god...It makes no sense to suggest he would have been unsuccesful if he appeared on the scene later.
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRist
- 35 posts since 31 Jan, 2004
Sorry wrench, but it is an unreasonable opinion!wrench45us wrote:jees, did I fail to mention my low opinion of Mitch Mitchell was a personal opinion?
Tony Williams from that era drove me up the wall as well -- busy, busy, busy
i liked the other usual icons of that time: Baker, Bonham, Moon
back then i really like Jim Capaldi of Traffic -- so maybe that sort of tasty minimal fills is more to my taste, and, of course Kreutzmann, more than Hart.
just another unreasonable personal opinion
Tony Williams was probably the greatest, most original drummer of all time. Listen to "Believe It"
with Allan Holdsworth or his work with Miles (as a teenager!)He may be busy, but like Holdsworth on guitar, he's not noodling, he's just playing stuff that may be too sophiticated for some peole.