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Stupid American Pig · Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:08 pm

donkey tugger wrote:
dystonia_ek wrote:
S_A_P wrote:Maybe add some tarnce elements to the curnk and we will be in bizness?
Trunk?
Don't tempt me....

I know you got it in ya DT- lets have your best Turnk song

Omniphonix · Post by **Omniphonix** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:28 pm

I've always had a taste for Jungle/Drum and Bass with quality lyrical skillz. Think along the lines of Roni Size and Reprazent. The UK has done some great things with rap music. I like more jazzy style horns mixed with double tempo break beats and synth pads for atmosphere. The key is someone who can MC well. Reprazent and Bahamadia and most anyone on New Forms has done well. I also like styles like Busta Rhymes and The GZA and The RZA from Wu Tang Clan. Seek out some DnB remixes of some of their tracks. I also think more electronic style manipulation of the vocal parts would be cool. Maybe granular effects and rhythmic chopping.

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:50 am

crimsontider · Post by **crimsontider** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:55 am

Pull the plug on Rap, it's been played out.

I actually kind of liked it back in the NWA days, maybe even after The Chronic. The stuff now has gone away from the phat analog sounds of early gangster and has been replaced with FM synthesizer whimp sounds, bells and whistles on top of no melody. Not to mention the thin cheap sounding drum samples.

Another punk in your face talking about bling bling and how many many ho's he get. Next........

TeeLangSun · Post by **TeeLangSun** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:06 am

Warmonger wrote:Make music, not "beats". Anyone can come up with 8 bars that sound good, but it takes work (not to mention talent) to create a fully developed song that holds listeners interest.

People should know that anything worth having is never easy to attain. That's a kind of universal law that applies to everything and everyone. Anyone can make an 8 bar loop, whether or not it's good, is where you are completely mistaken. Check soundclick for further proof or ReasonStation.com. Thousands of songs, almost none worth listening to.

Warmonger · Post by **Warmonger** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:12 am

"Anyone" wasn't meant to be taken literally.

clueless · Post by **clueless** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:20 am

"How Can We Make Rap/Hip-Hop Music Better???"

simple

f**k it, and eat it.

TVD · Post by **TVD** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:03 am

clueless wrote:"How Can We Make Rap/Hip-Hop Music Better???"

simple

f**k it, and eat it.

TVD · Post by **TVD** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:08 am

CskaTorpedo wrote:
donkey tugger wrote:
CskaTorpedo wrote:
dystonia_ek wrote:
S_A_P wrote:Maybe add some tarnce elements to the curnk and we will be in bizness?
Trunk?
Great, further trivialize music by adding even more uneeded categorization... That will help...

Psy-Crunk anyone?

We can all take mushrooms and LSD while rapping about blowing our load on the dance floor. It's all about peace love unity and bitches.
Will there be glowsticks shaped like uzis?

That would be Progressive Rap.

...and Tech-Hop!

TVD · Post by **TVD** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:10 am

crimsontider wrote:Pull the plug on Rap, it's been played out.

I actually kind of liked it back in the NWA days, maybe even after The Chronic. The stuff now has gone away from the phat analog sounds of early gangster and has been replaced with FM synthesizer whimp sounds, bells and whistles on top of no melody. Not to mention the thin cheap sounding drum samples.

Another punk in your face talking about bling bling and how many many ho's he get. Next........

So exactly what's next after Crunk?

TVD · Post by **TVD** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:14 am

Can the mix-mash albums/songs (Example: The Beatles & Jay-Z) be the answer? Think about it:

Chocolate(Passion Remix)---Kylie Minogue featuring 2pac

DwarfNebula · Post by **DwarfNebula** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:05 am

crimsontider wrote:Pull the plug on Rap, it's been played out.

I actually kind of liked it back in the NWA days, maybe even after The Chronic. The stuff now has gone away from the phat analog sounds of early gangster and has been replaced with FM synthesizer whimp sounds, bells and whistles on top of no melody. Not to mention the thin cheap sounding drum samples.

Another punk in your face talking about bling bling and how many many ho's he get. Next........

you dont have a clue what s going on in hh the last few years, right? or do you just generalize the few things you ve heard?
hh has never been more intersting and broad in the range of styles as it is now and has been the last time.
if you wanna talk about musical styles name one that has more improved, has more absorbed than hh.

SparkySpark · Post by **SparkySpark** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:30 am

I've listened to hiphop/rap to and fro for... well actually 20 years!

I agree there are some worthy stuff, as in all music genres, but in general, I think one can do as in most popular music:

1. Remove money
2. Add intelligence
3. Sue big commercial radio stations for existing (almost all of them only play what the companies want anyway, and so they make a nice counter-point to the first two points stated above

)

/SparkySpark

CskaTorpedo · Post by **CskaTorpedo** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:43 am

hh has never been more intersting and broad in the range of styles as it is now and has been the last time.

Hip Hop doens't exist (that ended in the 80's), Rap doesn't exist (ed lover and dr. dre are responsible for that one in the 90's), and what you so lovingly refer to as hip hop is actually just black culture dumbed down for an 18-23 year old target market (the audience that spends their money friviously). True enough that this monstrosity we once called hip hop has swallowed other forms of music and shat them out as misinthropic children ready to bring an Akira style holocaust on your ass.

Too many gimmicks have made this (like so many other genre's) a joke...

Of course I am generalizing, not everyone has soul'd out. Lots of people trying "to keep it real" but as a society we really dropped the ball on socialy concious music recently.

Sorry if I got off on a rant, your comment just seemed poorly worded and shortsighted.

DwarfNebula · Post by **DwarfNebula** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:59 am

CskaTorpedo wrote:
Hip Hop doens't exist (that ended in the 80's), Rap doesn't exist (ed lover and dr. dre are responsible for that one in the 90's), and what you so lovingly refer to as hip hop is actually just black culture dumbed down for an 18-23 year old target market (the audience that spends their money friviously). True enough that this monstrosity we once called hip hop has swallowed other forms of music and shat them out as misinthropic children ready to bring an Akira style holocaust on your ass.

Too many gimmicks have made this (like so many other genre's) a joke...

Of course I am generalizing, not everyone has soul'd out. Lots of people trying "to keep it real" but as a society we really dropped the ball on socialy concious music recently.

Sorry if I got off on a rant, your comment just seemed poorly worded and shortsighted.

i see your point. but for real, musically theres was never a broader range of influences in hh. AND to me there was never any better hh than now.
and i cant stand these comments any more like "there has been x and y that was hh and since then there was nothing, hh is dead". plain stupid and just false.

these examples you brought on may fit to what you hear on commercial radio/tv. but dont you care what s going on away from mass music?

and i dont know, how you know what im "lovingly refer to as hip hop". what you think i do?