Loving Classic Auto-Filter!

[Lunch Money]

The newest addition to the Kjaerhus Classics line is blowing me away. It may be 'old hat' to people who are accustomed to working with filters and envelope followers, but I'm not one of them. For me, this is the first time I've been able to fire up a plug-in, throw it on a track, and have pure sound-mangling FUN while at the same time getting highly useful results.

I don't know how limited or unlimited it is... for all I know, eventually I may need other auto filter options... but all I'm saying is that here and now, tonight, I am in with this thing.

Thank you Torben!!

I'd sure love to get my hands on a bank of presets, too... call me lazy if you want, but it's mainly that I don't know what the hell I'm doing with something like this. I just tweak knobs and press buttons I don't fully understand (what's an R.H.?) until it sounds wicked-awesome. Be cool to hear other people's work, too!

Greg

[soulkraka]

yup yup.....amazing that its free!

[Warmonger]

I'm not sure how useful a preset bank would be, as Classic Auto-Filter is pretty simple. The LFO is either a sine wave or random (R.H.). The envelope follower just tracks the amplitude of the incoming audio, and modifies the filter cutoff by the depth parameter. The filter itself should be self-explanatory aside from BR, which stands for band reject, also known as notch filter, which is the conceptual opposite of the band pass filter.

[AD80]

I classic auto filter. I use it all the time.

[Lunch Money]

I'm not sure how useful a preset bank would be, as Classic Auto-Filter is pretty simple. The LFO is either a sine wave or random (R.H.). The envelope follower just tracks the amplitude of the incoming audio, and modifies the filter cutoff by the depth parameter. The filter itself should be self-explanatory aside from BR, which stands for band reject, also known as notch filter, which is the conceptual opposite of the band pass filter.

All I know is that the few sample presets already sound mucho different from one another.

I know what you're saying, but to ME (a non-knowledgable guy in this stuff) it's similar to saying that a guitar amp sim doesn't need presets because it's just "gain, EQ, and speaker cab selection".

(for the record, I don't use many amp sim presets, but there are certainly people who do!)

Greg

[Warmonger]

I don't know jack shit about amp sims (as I don't play a guitar), but I still don't use presets.

[Lunch Money]

Fair enough. In truth, if I just sat down and had a proper "fiddle" with all the knobs, I'd probably get it sorted out.

Greg

[GaryG]

I find the nice thing about Classic Filter is it's one of those plugs that just works without delving too deep; some effects you have to fiddle with for hours until it does something useful/weird, Classic Filter seems to make an interesting sound whatever you set the knobs at.

[shamann]

Joining in on the lovefest, I too have made good use of it so far.

RH means random hold, which is equivalent to Sample&Hold on some synths (like the ARP Odyssey for example).

In modular terms, it works like this. A sample&hold module has 2 inputs--sample and hold. The module captures the incoming signal on the sample input and holds it until retriggered by the signal on the hold input. The most common setup is to have white noise going into sample, and a LFO going in to hold. A random value from the noise is held until trigerred by the LFO, so you get a rudimentary sort of arpeggiator, or a heavily quantized wave shape. When sent to the filter cut-off, it'll modulate it through random stepped values.

[Lunch Money]

So in other words I was doing it right all along... tweak some knobs that I don't fully understand, and it's bound to sound good anyhow.

Thanks for the explanation of RH. I know one thing for sure-- when that RH button is pressed, stuff gets twice as interesting.

Greg

[ddmf]

i think the most important thing is as long as it sounds good, who cares what the buttons do

no wonder the betabugs stuff has amazing labels, rather than lfo-cutoff etc...

[ouroboros]

Yes, I think this may be my favorite classics plug right now because it feels so creative. The RH gives a kind of arppegiation, it can be used like a regular filter, or an evelope following wahwah: just fun

[emdot_ambient]

Funny this thread shows up now. I was up till 2:00 a.m. last night working on a new track and used CAF for the first time. I threw it on an arppegiated stacatto line from Oddity and BOOM the default preset was completely perfect (and not the kind of filter I had intended to put on the track). I left it.

Used it again on another track and it's a total delight!

I'm quickly becoming a real fan of the Classic line.

[Lunch Money]

i think the most important thing is as long as it sounds good, who cares what the buttons do

no wonder the betabugs stuff has amazing labels, rather than lfo-cutoff etc...

Yup and Yup. Though, I only have my 'part' say in what goes on with the Betabugs plugs. The majority of that is ironed out between the developer and Mully.

An interesting thing that I noticed was that if you have it set up so that vocal frequencies aren't really affected by it, using it on a whole track really makes it sound like a whole new song. I don't imagine using it this way (submixes would be a better option), but I was working in a project for which I was overdubbing my own parts into a mostly-completed song... and I just happened to give it a try.

Tasty!

Greg

[Sascha Franck]

I REALLY dig the syncing LFO in R.H. mode!
Makes up for a whole new sound when used for pads and the likes.
Allready posted this:
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/temp/FilterPad.mp3
Pretty nice, I think.