whyterabbyt wrote:I think the Props should be using you in their marketing...
"See; even this bugger cant crash it"
Sonar 4 Producer, HELP!!
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- KVRAF
- 8701 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
S3 used to crash my previous puter regularly but S4 works completely stable on my new puter
I think it was the nforce chipset on the previous board (with an amd) that f**ked things up, I've got a P4 now with a decent motherboard and Sonar works like a dream
I think it was the nforce chipset on the previous board (with an amd) that f**ked things up, I've got a P4 now with a decent motherboard and Sonar works like a dream
My other host is Bruce Forsyth
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- KVRAF
- 2935 posts since 14 Dec, 2003 from Edinburgh
Imposcar works fine in S4PE here, apart from an occasional bug that makes the volume unfeasibly quietmayan wrote:I just did a clean install of Sonar 4 on a new computer. I've had all sorts of hassles with the VST wrapper. It's not recognizing ImpOscar at all. Period. It's installed but the wrapper totally bypasses it. Also giving me error fits with EVE and a few others. I haven't done alot of bouncing yet. Bruce, have you taken your plight to the Sonar forum at Cakewalk? At the very least, Cakewalk monitors the group and seems to be responsive.
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- 2935 posts since 14 Dec, 2003 from Edinburgh
Same NFR here. Also means it can't be registered, so can't download updates, so can't experiment with 4.02 to see if the vsti wrapper bug that screws up Cameleon has been fixedx_bruce wrote:In my case I think it had to do with the copy being a NFR that shuts itself down after 6 months. Cakewalk was nice enough to give me a code to make it a regular copy.
I'm fairly sure the NFR code had something to do with it as everything worked prior to encoding it to be a full version. All hell broke loose after that.
Will have to get in touch with CAkewalk, they are prety good at returning emails to us.
Bruce did you manage to get your NFR registered so you could get the updates?
Jim
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- 35476 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
What issue is there supposed to be with Cameleon; seems to work fine here...
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- 2935 posts since 14 Dec, 2003 from Edinburgh
Mod wheel or apparently any other midi controller input causes sound to break down. On my system moving the mod when it is assigned to eg the filter causes the sound to break up, not just in a distortion stylee, but the timing breaks up too, essentially the noise you get in Sonar just before the audio engine bails out. I have been sent an mp3 with much worse and very strange audio breakup that produced noises that sounded like a dial up modem!whyterabbyt wrote:What issue is there supposed to be with Cameleon?
Cakewalk have been informed, I recall it being something to do with the way packets are handled or something, out of my depth there anyway. I believe the same thing was occuring with some other vstis, which may be solved in 4.02.
I think Ben gets quite frustrated when these things get changed, as it means that devs have to go back and sort out stuff that was previously working fine.
Hey ho.
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- 35476 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Just tested it out on a random choice from the prest banks, and Im not hearing any breaking up at all; set the modwheel assigned to 4 different effects parameters at once (with the effects switched on!) inlucding filter res and cutoff and there doesnt seem to be anything untoward happening...
If you wanna send me a preset where its known to happen I can check it out...
If you wanna send me a preset where its known to happen I can check it out...
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- 414 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from x_World
I never experienced the Kontakt or other N.I. sample module problems before. If it means giving rendering to audio slower it's not that big a problem for me.
Sonar 3.11 was incredibly stable as is Sonar 4 now.
ttoz, I haven't had a Reason problem in years!
...I don't use it more than 1 in 10 projects though.
I can't even open my old, donglized Cubase 5.1 VST. The bastard can't enumerate all the plugins I have on my system...and I'm not a gear whore. I've actually gone a bit more hardware as I get ready to do my first CD in five years.
Because of a lot of very cool people I've gotten back several of the synths I used to have before I had to sell them all. There are VST instruments and effects I'll always use and if anything, the most space on my setup these days goes to BFD and RMIV followed by drum libraries. I'm even going to review some hardware this year. Old stuff, but still available and very available via Ebay, etc.
The apps that don't like my computer right now are LIVE 4.1, ACID 4 (try to get me to upgrade on this one!) FruityLoops when used with VSTs and of all things, EnergyXT. Why so many? All are under review along with Orion and Project 5.
The thing about doing musicFAQ is that I can't find a writer to save my life, and I need at least two more.
Anyway, I like Sonar 4 Producer. The biggest thing I'm grappling with right now is whether it is worth the upgrade from Producer 3 to 4. If people aren't doing 5:1 is it worth it, especially since there's no codec to burn a DVD. Anyone's thoughts about this? Standard may be a better way to go with further upgrades.
I hope companies will come to their senses on this and not push 5:1 as part of the feature set of a pro package. In Sonar 3 Producer it was important to get the Producer version for serious improvements and additions not found in the standard version. But with 4, it's hard not to wonder how much money was allocated to Producer for 5:1 when most studios don't do 5:1 audio mixes.
It's a serious issue to me, and one unsolved right now for budget musicans, which I am. If I wasn't reviewing and other issues like beta testing and writing about companies or interviewing the people behind the synths we like, I'd have nothing new to use for the last two years, and the last two years have been the most impressive I've seen...and this year is following the growth trend.
Anyway, I like Sonar a lot. I'm not happy with Cubase and in general don't buy anything by Steinberg any longer nor request anything for review, not that it would necessarily matter. I have strong feelings about how they screwed up on Xphraze and Plex and how they can't develop their own synths. What was their best synth to date? Seems to be D'Cota and that wasn't built by Steinberg as most people already know. It was built by VirSyn. What do they have besides romplers? Halion 3 may be worthwhile but I'll stick with Kontakt.
Try getting help from Steinberg in the U.S. It's a joke! Even stores can't get things answered while customers are in the store, ready to purchase.
I get answers from any other company quickly. And Cakewalk is a free phone call in the states. My problem happened on a Friday evening and I knew there were a lot of Sonar users here. And now Cakewalk has a good developer in Rene, although to their credit they always focused on the sequencer and effects rather than synths. I'll give you GM/XG synths are useless to me.
Sonar 3.11 was incredibly stable as is Sonar 4 now.
ttoz, I haven't had a Reason problem in years!
...I don't use it more than 1 in 10 projects though.
I can't even open my old, donglized Cubase 5.1 VST. The bastard can't enumerate all the plugins I have on my system...and I'm not a gear whore. I've actually gone a bit more hardware as I get ready to do my first CD in five years.
Because of a lot of very cool people I've gotten back several of the synths I used to have before I had to sell them all. There are VST instruments and effects I'll always use and if anything, the most space on my setup these days goes to BFD and RMIV followed by drum libraries. I'm even going to review some hardware this year. Old stuff, but still available and very available via Ebay, etc.
The apps that don't like my computer right now are LIVE 4.1, ACID 4 (try to get me to upgrade on this one!) FruityLoops when used with VSTs and of all things, EnergyXT. Why so many? All are under review along with Orion and Project 5.
The thing about doing musicFAQ is that I can't find a writer to save my life, and I need at least two more.
Anyway, I like Sonar 4 Producer. The biggest thing I'm grappling with right now is whether it is worth the upgrade from Producer 3 to 4. If people aren't doing 5:1 is it worth it, especially since there's no codec to burn a DVD. Anyone's thoughts about this? Standard may be a better way to go with further upgrades.
I hope companies will come to their senses on this and not push 5:1 as part of the feature set of a pro package. In Sonar 3 Producer it was important to get the Producer version for serious improvements and additions not found in the standard version. But with 4, it's hard not to wonder how much money was allocated to Producer for 5:1 when most studios don't do 5:1 audio mixes.
It's a serious issue to me, and one unsolved right now for budget musicans, which I am. If I wasn't reviewing and other issues like beta testing and writing about companies or interviewing the people behind the synths we like, I'd have nothing new to use for the last two years, and the last two years have been the most impressive I've seen...and this year is following the growth trend.
Anyway, I like Sonar a lot. I'm not happy with Cubase and in general don't buy anything by Steinberg any longer nor request anything for review, not that it would necessarily matter. I have strong feelings about how they screwed up on Xphraze and Plex and how they can't develop their own synths. What was their best synth to date? Seems to be D'Cota and that wasn't built by Steinberg as most people already know. It was built by VirSyn. What do they have besides romplers? Halion 3 may be worthwhile but I'll stick with Kontakt.
Try getting help from Steinberg in the U.S. It's a joke! Even stores can't get things answered while customers are in the store, ready to purchase.
I get answers from any other company quickly. And Cakewalk is a free phone call in the states. My problem happened on a Friday evening and I knew there were a lot of Sonar users here. And now Cakewalk has a good developer in Rene, although to their credit they always focused on the sequencer and effects rather than synths. I'll give you GM/XG synths are useless to me.
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- 2935 posts since 14 Dec, 2003 from Edinburgh
Ok, try this one, it causes audio breakup for me when the modwheel is moved, on S4PE NFR , Audiophile2496, 256 samples, 1.7 Athlon :whyterabbyt wrote:Just tested it out on a random choice from the prest banks, and Im not hearing any breaking up at all; set the modwheel assigned to 4 different effects parameters at once (with the effects switched on!) inlucding filter res and cutoff and there doesnt seem to be anything untoward happening...
If you wanna send me a preset where its known to happen I can check it out...
Her ya go
mcLilith has been playing Columbo and seems to have found out why and how to cure the problem though
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- 2548 posts since 7 Jul, 2003 from Huntington, WV
Hey now, I don't deserve all the credit.Hunter wrote:mcLilith has been playing Columbo and seems to have found out why and how to cure the problem though
In fact, some of the things I learned came from whyterabbyt.
take care,
McLilith
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- 35476 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
[quote="Hunter quoth
Ok, try this one, it causes audio breakup for me when the modwheel is moved, on S4PE NFR , Audiophile2496, 256 samples, 1.7 Athlon :
mcLilith has been playing Columbo and seems to have found out why and how to cure the problem though
S4PE, V4.02 EMU1212M at 4ms Latency and an XP3200, and it seems to be fine. Im shattered, and need to hit the sack, but I'll punt off an MP3 of it 'being good' tomorrow if you need one...
Ok, try this one, it causes audio breakup for me when the modwheel is moved, on S4PE NFR , Audiophile2496, 256 samples, 1.7 Athlon :
mcLilith has been playing Columbo and seems to have found out why and how to cure the problem though
S4PE, V4.02 EMU1212M at 4ms Latency and an XP3200, and it seems to be fine. Im shattered, and need to hit the sack, but I'll punt off an MP3 of it 'being good' tomorrow if you need one...
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRian
- 1238 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Kentucky
Same for me. I bought Cakewalk 3, then upgraded to 5, 7, 9, Sonar 1, 2 and 3. Now I think I will go back to skipping every other version. 2 and 3 had important additions that I wanted. 4 has surround sound which I don’t need, and a metronome which I can fake. In the past XL or Producer editions included new instruments or effects that I wanted. With 4 there is nothing I want that was not already in 3. I also considered just getting a studio upgrade, but that may not give me much. When 5 Producer comes out I will probably be better off upgrading from 3 Producer than 4 Studio.x_bruce wrote:... The biggest thing I'm grappling with right now is whether it is worth the upgrade from Producer 3 to 4. If people aren't doing 5:1 is it worth it, especially since there's no codec to burn a DVD. Anyone's thoughts about this? Standard may be a better way to go with further upgrades.
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Robert
All I need to be happy is one more VSTi.