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Peel · Post by **Peel** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:48 pm

Bloody hell, it wasn't long enough so I had to post it twice

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:14 pm

Peel, good work mate!!!

But I would like to add a footnote to your treatise:

The Diminished Scale
(aka the octatonic scale, the fourth mode of limited transposition, etc.)

This scale is quite common in metal and the darker forms of electronica. It is constructed by alternating whole and half steps. e.g.: c,c#,d#,e,f#, g,a,a#,(c)

Note that it has eight notes to the octave instead of the usual seven.

This scale permits triads to be constructed on only four of its notes (in our example the notes are c,d#,f# and a). The cool part is that they can all be either major or minor triads.

These triads only have minor sevenths.

Of course, one can use this scale and introduce non scale tones, just like in diatonic music. But be careful, lest you lose that special "octatonic" flavor.

SQ4 · Post by **SQ4** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:31 pm

I've remarked a lot of musical theory knowledge in this thread.

Anybody interested in participating with an SQ4² experiment?

Just PM me.

Jafo · Post by **Jafo** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:49 pm

Peel wrote:(again, you may encounter, for example, an E#, but this is just a different way of naming an F)

Depends upon your tuning system and how you feel about microtones, actually.

Excellent post, btw.

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:57 pm

Jafo wrote:
Depends upon your tuning system and how you feel about microtones, actually.

Do we have a Harry Partch fan here?

Peel · Post by **Peel** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:01 am

Jafo wrote:
Peel wrote:(again, you may encounter, for example, an E#, but this is just a different way of naming an F)
Depends upon your tuning system and how you feel about microtones, actually.

Excellent post, btw.

Yeah, that's why I mentioned that I was simplifying things a bit. I feel a pang of guilt when I type things like this (or that "The normal scale in Western music consists of 12 equally-spaced notes"), but I don't think that it matters for basic chord-building principles. Actually, on second thought maybe I should add a note about enharmonic spellings -- it's important to music teachers

Herotodus, I was trying to avoid talking too much about scales except where I had to. Maybe I could add something about the diminished scale(s), but then I'd need to add the harmonic/melodic minors, and probably the hungarian, etc...

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:06 am

Peel wrote:Herotodus, I was trying to avoid talking too much about scales except where I had to. Maybe I could add something about the diminished scale(s), but then I'd need to add the harmonic/melodic minors, and probably the hungarian, etc...

Yeah, I was probably just being pretentious.

ouroboros · Post by **ouroboros** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:34 am

Peel, thanks!
cleared up some misunderstandings I had. I saved the post as a 7 page Word file

SecondSkin · Post by **SecondSkin** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:52 am

Peel -- you doubled my understanding of music theory/chords in one post!

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:28 am

Wow, Peel, what a coincidence. I was allready preparing a doc regarding the very theme, now I can just stop!
VERY good explanations, mate! Will perhaps add (not correct, from what I can see, there's nothing to correct) a bit later on, after reading it again.

However, all this should go into a separate thread with no initial question - but to serve as a general explanation.

To the rest of you folks: READ THAT in case you have any fundamental questions about chords, it will save you from buying/reading QUITE some books.

Great work, Mr. Peel!

Peel · Post by **Peel** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:49 pm

Happy for the compliments!
I fixed it up a bit (found some mistakes too) and added a bit. I'll post the revised version in a new thread tomorrow.

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