KVR Audio

TVD · Post by **TVD** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:34 am

And is there any signs of improve performance since v5?

Does this sequencer overlap Live 4, FLS 5, or Sonar 4 in many ways? And how?

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:46 am

I've given up on ACID since the horribly botched version 4 update and switched over to Ableton Live. I recently tried a demo of the ACID 5 update and it's, IMO, only gotten worse.

imekon · Post by **imekon** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:58 am

I've switched to FL Studio and/or Live.

I didn't bother upgrading to 5.

TVD · Post by **TVD** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:06 am

I think the MIDI idea was a mistake. A lot of former & current Acid-users had said this before.

tha_man · Post by **tha_man** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:11 am

I'm still on 4, it's great IMO, except for midi of course, but I use Reason for that. 5 has some cool improvements (folder tracks, send bus to bus, direct VST support), but to be honest I was kind of dissapointed with it anyway... I'll probably switch to Tracktion 2 + some hardware in the future, if I'll like T2. Waiting for demo.

Midi in Acid was not a mistake, it's great to be able to add some VST bassline or something to it or even create your own drum loop. But it was a mistake to implement it so poorly, and there's no improvement in V5.

Cabinfever · Post by **Cabinfever** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:17 am

acid is dead. version 4 was hopelessly bug-ridden. version 5 is also extremely buggy. but worse, it just added low-level newbie bells & whistles rather than address any real problems or make professional enhancements.

for example the horribly botched midi implementation of version 4 was left completely untouched in version 5

one of the great strengths of acid is its "chopper" tool. but, despite a huge weight of users requests for a "super-chopper" it too was left completely untouched between versions.

instead there is something called the "media manager" to organise your (sony/acid) loops as the big feature

in a desperate attempt to remain relevant the acid diehards go on about its rewire capability. but just how many functions do you use elsewhere before you decide its better to do *everything* elsewhere.

i was a huge acid fan and am really extremely unhappy about what's happened in the past few years, but i just had to face it....

acid is dead. i doubt there will be a "pro" version 6.

TVD · Post by **TVD** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:34 am

Cabinfever wrote:
i was a huge acid fan and am really extremely unhappy about what's happened in the past few years, but i just had to face it....

acid is dead. i doubt there will be a "pro" version 6.

Don't count Sony out just yet. After check out acidplanet.com, Sony knows that they still have a market with their name on it (unless Live-users & FLS-users are quietly lying on themselves with the tracks they made!!!).

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:55 am

Virtually all DAW programs are merging their features together in a similar manner. Most MIDI sequencers have implemented some form of realtime audio stretching and Live and ACID have moved towards MIDI sequencing. At this point ACID really has very little to offer that other programs don't already address other than workflow.

The problem is that Sony/Sonic Foundry has not only screwed up features such as MIDI editing but there are numerous other problems such as an awkward mixing scheme that doesn't even allow for VSTi sends! None of which they seem to want to address.

It really seems that their new emphasis is towards implementing features that push hobbyist users towards buying more ACID libraries and less towards features needed by professional users. I suppose, with a mega-conglomerate like Sony at the helm, this is to be expected.

It's really a shame since ACID was quite a revolutionary piece of software when it first came out. However at this stage, IMO, ACID has become irrelevant.

TVD · Post by **TVD** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:05 am

JohnVulich wrote:Virtually all DAW programs are merging their features together in a similar manner. Most MIDI sequencers have implemented some form of realtime audio stretching and Live and ACID have moved towards MIDI sequencing. At this point ACID really has very little to offer that other programs don't already address other than workflow.

The problem is that Sony/Sonic Foundry has not only screwed up features such as MIDI editing but there are numerous other problems such as an awkward mixing scheme that doesn't even allow for VSTi sends! None of which they seem to want to address.

It really seems that their new emphasis is towards implementing features that push hobbyist users towards buying more ACID libraries and less towards features needed by professional users. I suppose, with a mega-conglomerate like Sony at the helm, this is to be expected.

It's really a shame since ACID was quite a revolutionary piece of software when it first came out. However at this stage, IMO, ACID has become irrelevant.

So as long as I'm still a FLS-user, I don't really need Acid Pro, do I?

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:22 am

TonyVanDam 3:16 wrote:So as long as I'm still a FLS-user, I don't really need Acid Pro, do I?

I really don't know what you're getting at.

TVD · Post by **TVD** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:38 am

JohnVulich wrote:
TonyVanDam 3:16 wrote:So as long as I'm still a FLS-user, I don't really need Acid Pro, do I?
I really don't know what you're getting at.

If I getting the tracks done with FL Studio, why waste money on product like Acid Pro?

opiadream · Post by **opiadream** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:04 am

tried it and have no intention of upgrading to 5
only use acid for arranging audio,and only keep it for it's loop stretching ability
the audio arrangement could just as easily be done in kristal,and i'm slowly moving over to using that
while I save my beans up to buy sonar 4.

acid will probably stick around,but I doubt it will be an app that newbies stay with once their feet have gotten wet.

lavoll · Post by **lavoll** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:51 am

oh..

hmm..

i still use acid, all the time

i feel so lonely. hehe.

for me it is still the quickest program to create tempo maps for scoring video in.
and i like mixing in it.. etc. i like acid

mostly because it is so quick... and i havent noticed any bugs in version 5. what are the bugs? or perhaps i am better off not knowing... as soon as i am told what they are, they show up

hehe.

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:54 am

I might start using my copy of Acid again - it was intuitive and I liked the beat slicer.

Since Acid Pro 4 though, I've not used it.

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:11 pm

just say no to drugs

Is Anyone Still Uning Acid Pro 4 or 5?