Is Anyone Still Uning Acid Pro 4 or 5?

[plastique]

if you quote someone who is AGAINST using it , expect to hear the neagative arguments ... as far as it concerns me i invested neough time already into the discussion , it's really Sony's task to answer such questions (or the ones who feel comfortable with it) .

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[plastique]

thanks for taking that personal
give the others a chance to reply , i'm out of here *cough* *cough*

[billybk1]

Yeah, I have a memory manager too (every DAW should have one, IMO), FreeMem Pro. Anyway, I am looking at the Windows Task Manager, right now, with ACID Pro 5 open, and the SQL, is only using 35MB on my DAW.
Besides, you can turn the Media Manager off, in ACID's Preferences, if it's too much of a bother and not worry about SQL memory issues.
FWIW, if you are going to be using Sony apps, get used to the SQL, as all their apps will be using it. Vegas 5 has always had it and I've never had a problem editing my videos with it for the past year. ACID Pro 5 has it and the forthcoming Sound Forge 8 will have the SQL incorporated into it, as well.

Much ado about nothing, IMO.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[steffensen]

hm.. i have thought a lot on testing ACID 5 instead of building things in Logic 5 wich is what i use now.
in this new project, we are fiddling around a lot with breaks n stuff, and sure, rex'ing and using exs24 is the dope!

ACID on the other hand, have a little other way of looking at loops and breaks n stuff, a little more aimed for that if i understand things right. and as ACID now have midi and can run VSTi's etc..i dont really see why i shouldnt be able to work completely in there.

so thing is, does anyone in here think i should try ACID for this task, or should i just stay in Logic 5 instead?

(perhaps i should make a own topic of this instead..?)

[bnmoore]

FWIW, if you are going to be using Sony apps, get used to the SQL, as all their apps will be using it. Vegas 5 has always had it and I've never had a problem editing my videos with it for the past year. ACID Pro 5 has it and the forthcoming Sound Forge 8 will have the SQL incorporated into it, as well.

I've had Vegas 5 since it came out and there was no SQL requirement for it. The .NET requirement started with Vegas 4. FWIW you can un-install the SQL elements and ACID Pro 5 will still work. I'm not sure that's why but it stopped scanning VST/VSTi plugins on start-up after I removed it.

[lavoll]

i'm scoring a short movie right now in acid only.
a mix of midi and audio (and rewire)... it's wonderful
but then again. what i do with midi is record what i play... if i think it stinks, i do a new take. for this project, i dont do any midi editing at all.


and now a different question.
when I need to do more midi stuff, i use Sonar. but really, i'm not doing that much editing anyways.. what do people do with their midi??? is there a whole world i am missing? hehe. i record.. and sometimes quantize.. or sometimes fix the note offs so that they sound better (for woodwinds for example).. and then sometimes do an extra take for volume expression... and then sometimes cut and copy and paste and stuff, but thats really it.
what else could/should i be doing with midi??

[bugs]

I think Sony is going to become a major player in the sequencer market since it acquired Sonic Foundry. I'm not sure why () the highend plugs such as the Oxford series aren't available for the SF tools--must be some sort of long-term agreement SF made with PoCo and PT, but I assume they will be eventually. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Acid components rolled into a highend sequencer to rival SX, Sonar and Logic--maybe even Nuendo and the real Pro Tools. Sony has some serious muscle.

Incidently, I still use Acid 4 and find it delightful and fun to which to work. I use it to generate looping patterns, etc which I export to Cubase for use as a single track. Some of the effects aren't too bad either (e.g. multitap) and Cubase can load the DX dlls as well. Great app--no, useful--yes! I don't find that any application is complete unto itself for the demands of my work, but in combination I have put together a killer production system--Cubase + Reason + FL Studio + Acid + WaveLab + Soundforge + little Chainer + (instruments and effects) = bliss for me, but I want those Oxford plugs to work in Soundforge--come on Sony, get with the program!

[Ian Stone]

For me, Acid was my introduction to this whole PC music making thing way back in it's inception with Acid Rock. (Anybody remember that one?) I had alot of fun with mixing loops and samples but soon found it limited and after the onslaught of VST technology, I dropped it. Rummaging through the gamut of VST's I settled with Orion, but sadly missed Acid. Then, news broke of Acid v3.0 becoming a VST! I sad cool and checked it out. Unfortunately, I learned that it did not support the .fxp format and was back with Orion again. Finally, along came Acid v5.0 with all the bells and whistles. Now I was excited. But then found out how much of a CPU hog it was with that stupid Microsoft NET framework thing. Too bad. Anyway, I am quite contented now with Orion and lost faith with Acid, thank you.

[bugs]

Just one final thought--maybe Sony is considering acquiring Avid--that would be a hoot.

[Cabinfever]

as much as i love how acid works, sony has taken it very firmly down the "hobbyist who buys loop packs" direction. everything in acid5 is skewed to that aim.

so, if you're a hobbyist who likes to manipulate canned loops, then acid5 is for you. the "pro" features stopped being added at acidpro3

the app really could have been so much more, but sony has taken it way downmarket.

sad, so very sad

[Karma_tba]

I have been using Acid since version 2.0....mainly because it was my introduction to computer based music.I recently upgraded form 4.0 to 5.0 and even though I defended Acid in these forums I was a bit unimpressed with the upgrade.Thankfully Tracktion became free and now it is my favorite sequencer.I still use Orion to build loops to use in Acid..but mostly I now use Acid to convert full songs from Tracktion from .wav to .wma or .mp3 in order to post them on Acid Planet.It's time for Sony to stop tacking crap onto the app and redesign it from the ground up.What Acid has in it's favor (great loop tools)is diminished by it's limitations and high cost(unless you are buying the upgrade).

[ScarKord]

With all the bad comments about Acid 5.0, I resisted upgrading for a few months as I was perfectly happy with my stable Acid 4.0.

But then the attraction of Folder tracks, VST effects and real-time event reverse got too great and I took the plunge.

I honestly wished I hadn't though, as it is the single most unstable piece of software I've ever used. When it manages to run for more than a few minutes, you can actually see that there are some great improvements, but there's just no point if it dies every 10 minutes or so.

Anyway, I did log the problem with Sony and their initial solution was to check my drivers were all up to date. They were, so I contacted them again. Their new solution was to check for resource conflicts, reduce Hardware acceleration on my graphics card and try swapping my graphics card and sound card into new slots (Incidentally, how many motherboards do you know of that have multiple AGP slots?).

Their latest solution was that I should remove all hardware that used USB connections - not that easy, when you are using an Mbox USB soundcard!!!

Surfice to say, I've reluctantly returned to using Acid 4.0, except for those songs which I foolishly re-saved from within Acid 5.0 and which now no longer open in Acid 4.0.

[imekon]

FWIW, if you are going to be using Sony apps, get used to the SQL, as all their apps will be using it. Vegas 5 has always had it and I've never had a problem editing my videos with it for the past year. ACID Pro 5 has it and the forthcoming Sound Forge 8 will have the SQL incorporated into it, as well.

Vegas 5 doesn't use the SQL that Acid does, if it does at all; Vegas 5 has NEVER had it.