KVR Audio

Ian SDZH · Post by **Ian SDZH** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:19 pm

Yes. Extensively, thank you.
Just upgraded to Pro 5 and am very happy with VST integration.

RangTang · Post by **RangTang** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:40 pm

I think this topic should be repharsed "is anyone still using samples and not needing VSTi to create your music." When I want to relive the old days I fire-up Acid 3.

Ian SDZH · Post by **Ian SDZH** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:51 pm

RangTang wrote:I think this topic should be repharsed "is anyone still using samples and not needing VSTi to create your music." When I want to relive the old days I fire-up Acid 3.

What a totally f**king ignorant and wholly groundless point of view.
Next time, engage your brain before spewing out such utter shit.

RangTang · Post by **RangTang** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:18 pm

Acid has very poor VSTi controls, I've moved away from samples and only use VSTi, so, it is my point of view that versions 4 and 5 are useless. I don't see my brain as a shit pile, but feel free to see my point as f**king groundless.

Reverend Rhythm · Post by **Reverend Rhythm** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:45 pm

I use acid pro 5.0 and am very happy with it, but it's not for everyone. I know about the sequencer, but I just get around it, because I like the interface so much.

Remember, if you don't use loops then stay away from acid. That is what it is for.

Karma_tba · Post by **Karma_tba** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:22 pm

I think there is a problem when some of us use the words "samples" and "loops" interchangably.Even if your music uses only VSTi there is a good chance that you are still using samples as many VSTi are sample based.If you make music with loops you are basically stringing together audio recordings(could be one instrument or an ensemble) that you edit to your liking.Samples on the other hand can be mapped to a keyboard and played like a instrument.I use both as each has a place in my music.

womble42 · Post by **womble42** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:12 pm

Well, well, I feel that I have to come out of retirement on these forums to defend the "old girl" that is ACID 5.0.

Yes - there are still stability issues in it and these MUST be resolved in future patches/updates - but, why are people knocking it when they obviously don't use it? I don't use SONAR, but do I trash it? No! I have used ACID music since the first version and it has always been the most intuitive audio software to use. The midi is still a bit shakey, but I have found it okay and I still find it easier than CUBASE etc..
The point here is - if you don't use then that's cool - but if other people like it and use it then that's also fine! AS someone else has already said, there are hundreds of uses on ACIDPLANET.com, so obviously SOMEONE likes it!
Stop trashing a piece of software that you don't use and get on with making music on your own software!

ACID rules!!

TVD · Post by **TVD** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:42 pm

ScarKord wrote:With all the bad comments about Acid 5.0, I resisted upgrading for a few months as I was perfectly happy with my stable Acid 4.0.

But then the attraction of Folder tracks, VST effects and real-time event reverse got too great and I took the plunge.

I honestly wished I hadn't though, as it is the single most unstable piece of software I've ever used. When it manages to run for more than a few minutes, you can actually see that there are some great improvements, but there's just no point if it dies every 10 minutes or so.

Anyway, I did log the problem with Sony and their initial solution was to check my drivers were all up to date. They were, so I contacted them again. Their new solution was to check for resource conflicts, reduce Hardware acceleration on my graphics card and try swapping my graphics card and sound card into new slots (Incidentally, how many motherboards do you know of that have multiple AGP slots?).

Their latest solution was that I should remove all hardware that used USB connections - not that easy, when you are using an Mbox USB soundcard!!!

Surfice to say, I've reluctantly returned to using Acid 4.0, except for those songs which I foolishly re-saved from within Acid 5.0 and which now no longer open in Acid 4.0.

Don't we all get the feeling that Acid Pro 4 was the final chapter in what was once great about loop recording?

TVD · Post by **TVD** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:46 pm

DKeenum wrote:I use acid pro 5.0 and am very happy with it, but it's not for everyone. I know about the sequencer, but I just get around it, because I like the interface so much.

Remember, if you don't use loops then stay away from acid. That is what it is for.

Loops!!!

dystonia_ek · Post by **dystonia_ek** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:47 pm

I use Acid 4 for editing complex skip/stutter stuff and odd repetitions of sections of long files - never used it for loops particularly, but for extremely complex edits it's the fastest working solution I've found yet. Don't use MIDI or effects with it at all, for me it's just an editor, so if that stuff is buggy it's not an issue for me.

mayan · Post by **mayan** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:11 pm

Yep...I use it as kinda a mega-sketch pad for some of my more involved pieces...generally using my own loops or some collaborative effort and often times plug 'em into Acid rather than Sonar. It's just easier sometimes for me to work/see/load stuff in Acid than in Sonar. ...still haven't mastered the use of plug-in effects and VSTs in Acid yet though. For those I go back over to Sonar. Oh well.

opiadream · Post by **opiadream** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:18 pm

RangTang wrote: feel free to see my point as f**king groundless.

considering that acid can be used to arrange any length audio file and is not just for loops
that I have arranged entire songs in it without using any loops
that consisted of all my own playing that was rendered to audio for arrangement
I'd say your remark was more than just groundless
it was plain stupid

ccollinsmith · Post by **ccollinsmith** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:43 pm

TonyVanDam 3:16 wrote:
ScarKord wrote:With all the bad comments about Acid 5.0, I resisted upgrading for a few months as I was perfectly happy with my stable Acid 4.0.

But then the attraction of Folder tracks, VST effects and real-time event reverse got too great and I took the plunge.

I honestly wished I hadn't though, as it is the single most unstable piece of software I've ever used. When it manages to run for more than a few minutes, you can actually see that there are some great improvements, but there's just no point if it dies every 10 minutes or so.

Different systems, different problems. Acid 4.0 crashed my system constantly; Acid 5.0 does not.

And yes, I use ACID... but a lot less than I used to. I do like the sample/loop database in 5.0. THAT, I think is worth the price of the upgrade... not to mention the NI Express Instruments (which I did get when I downloaded my upgrade).

The MIDI, though, as others have mentioned, leaves a lot to be desired. And ReWire? God help us!

kilroy · Post by **kilroy** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:23 pm

Blimey lads...I'm still using Acid 3.

It's the low fat version.

Lean, quick, and stable.

All I need is good, no frills, solid performance that won't let me down in high pressure production environments. I am more than willing to trade off some candy coating for reliability.

RangTang · Post by **RangTang** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:50 pm

I'm all for Acid 3, the rest are just a little bit of icing on the cake.

considering that acid can be used to arrange any length audio file

You don't know the Sonic Foundry mantra "edit in Sound Forge, loop in Acid, and arrange in Vegas." You are not allowed to cross those lines, you are not being a good Acid head, now are you? Of course you could just do all three in Audition and not waste your money, but then again that's MGO - my groundless opinon.

Is Anyone Still Uning Acid Pro 4 or 5?