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Prefab doubt · Post by **Prefab doubt** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:42 pm

I did not try the Modular, even if heard good things about it (and by the way, it's a damn complex instrument, so I really think it would need a long time to be fully discovered).
The CS-80 is one of my fav virtual synths. Never used the original, so I can't compare, but anyway it's a truly inspiring machine. And I think that's the most important thing when it comes to musical instruments. It lets you do so different things, very flexible.
The Mini is another powerful instrument, which adds several features to the original, so comparing them it's just a part of the question. If you need good basses, leads you know you can trust it, but you can do more with it, being polyphonic. There's "meat" in these instruments, and that's a good sensation to me!
The ARP, well, I just spent a little time on it (and it deserves time!). But the first impressions have been great. When I started using it I had, probably for the first time, the impression that 70's are back! Those nuances, those drones... well to me it's wonderful to have these sounds coming out of my computer... it's just pleasure!
I'm not an engineer, and I'm not a vintage circuits expert, sorry. I'm more a music lover

Last things: all these softwares are really enjoyable when used with real knobs, not with the mouse! Hearing the presets is good, but when you start tweaking real knobs with your fingers it's another story! Get a good controller!

Hope I've been helpful. Anyway we're talking about very different instruments, so it depends on your specific needs.. but if you have money.... well...

Shamanix · Post by **Shamanix** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:25 pm

I'll vote for the CS80V as well

Those modular synths like Moog and Arp are too much for me

Never tried the Minimoog though.

philliptwenty · Post by **philliptwenty** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:31 pm

i'll go with CS-80, just because i really don't like their moogs at all.

ccollinsmith · Post by **ccollinsmith** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:37 pm

Guitarjeff wrote:The Modular V is the only one I own, but I think it's great!!

Me too.

Prefab doubt · Post by **Prefab doubt** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:07 pm

To Shamanix: I can understand your thought, anyway sometimes I think some instruments deserve our attention... just today I started reading the ARP 2600 V manual, and now I can't wait to turn the instrument on again to begin experimenting... I need tiiiiime!

omissis · Post by **omissis** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:27 pm

i'll go with CS-80, just because i really don't like their moogs at all.

You did the right thing! The CS-80V is their best synth in my thought although it needs to be better tweaked and freed from some bugs, we have to join and make our request suitable for Arturia (and, why not discontinue the unsuccessful products

??)

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akisd28 · Post by **akisd28** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:30 pm

philliptwenty wrote:i'll go with CS-80, just because i really don't like their moogs at all.

Kinda agree with that.

AsianCarol · Post by **AsianCarol** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:35 pm

To be true,they all sound the same to me....

Prefab doubt · Post by **Prefab doubt** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:35 pm

Just about customer feedback...
isn't a real shame that a so good company has a not so good website?
forums are down again, at least since this morning without any warning message.. a lot of pages seem to have problems (wrong links, etc)... I hoped also to know something more about NAMM for them, but the picture and the short text in home page is almost embarrasing...
well they're not alone in this strange lack of marketing&design care... also Gmedia's site would need serious improvements in my opinion!...

anyway I'll be happy if those companies go on making great products

useruseruser · Post by **useruseruser** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:04 am

Well,
it's hard to say, because their synthesizers (the emulations) are all really superb.

Probably the finest you can get today.

Which particular of the emus is a matter of taste. Maybe the last one the best one?

This wouldn't be fair, because in sight of flexibility the Modular should be the best...

Because this are all (pretty excellent) emulations, so the question should be: Which of the originals is the best?

But: can you really compare a modular system with pre-wired systems, like Mini or ARP or CS80 ?

The only facit: grab them all! So we can expect just more of those excellent masterpieces of synthesizer emulations.

If there was a Grammy for software synthesizers, they earend it all...

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rouge · Post by **rouge** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:08 am

Xist are you really Xavier Oudin from Arturia

Funkybot · Post by **Funkybot** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:06 am

Wasn't it already established that all of the Arturia synths, MMV, Minimoog, 2600, CS80 all use the same oscillators? Now filters, envelopes, routings, etc are all very important parts of a synth, but to use the same oscillators on a Moog as you would on a CS80 and call both emulations is just lazy IMO. If you like the sounds, layout, filter, etc., that's one thing. Hell, I like the Minimoog myself, not too big, not too small, sounds good, etc. But I wouldn't exactly call these great emulations. Frankly, I'm waiting for the Minimonsta demo before I decide if I want to buy either Arturia's Minimoog or that one, but I have a feeling that G-media's would actually sound more like a Minimoog (in all honesty not the most important thing to me, hence why I'm waiting for the demo), just in the same way that the TimeWarp 2600 sounds more like a 2600 than the 2600V. I think those overly enamoured with the Arturia synths should seriously consider looking at the options, even if they're not as well known. By the end of February you'll have two new ones which both sound great from the demos, one of which has already done a damn good job of proving it's a better emulation of the original than the Arturia, and if you've listened to the early filter test MP3s of Minimonsta comparing the original to Arturia's emu, you can't help but think Minimonsta will be a lot closer as well. But let the demos decide. If you like the Arturia synths, cool, more power to you, but remember the osc's. And petition Arturia for properly modelled ones.

LoopisLucas · Post by **LoopisLucas** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:09 am

I vote MiniMoog. I love this thing. Such great bass and lead patches.

useruseruser · Post by **useruseruser** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:23 am

Funkybot wrote:Wasn't it already established that all of the Arturia synths, MMV, Minimoog, 2600, CS80 all use the same oscillators? Now filters, envelopes, routings, etc are all very important parts of a synth, but to use the same oscillators on a Moog as you would on a CS80 and call both emulations is just lazy IMO. If you like the sounds, layout, filter, etc., that's one thing. Hell, I like the Minimoog myself, not too big, not too small, sounds good, etc. But I wouldn't exactly call these great emulations. Frankly, I'm waiting for the Minimonsta demo before I decide if I want to buy either Arturia's Minimoog or that one, but I have a feeling that G-media's would actually sound more like a Minimoog (in all honesty not the most important thing to me, hence why I'm waiting for the demo), just in the same way that the TimeWarp 2600 sounds more like a 2600 than the 2600V. I think those overly enamoured with the Arturia synths should seriously consider looking at the options, even if they're not as well known. By the end of February you'll have two new ones which both sound great from the demos, one of which has already done a damn good job of proving it's a better emulation of the original than the Arturia, and if you've listened to the early filter test MP3s of Minimonsta comparing the original to Arturia's emu, you can't help but think Minimonsta will be a lot closer as well. But let the demos decide. If you like the Arturia synths, cool, more power to you, but remember the osc's. And petition Arturia for properly modelled ones.

Really vague statement.
Are you really sure, that there is all true in your "selfmade" thesis?

Your statement has some - let me say - "suggestive" parts, which in my ears sound very (somehow distorted) subjective.

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crimsontider · Post by **crimsontider** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:51 am

Arturia uses certain technologies in recreating the occilators (oscillator modeling technology?)
but that does not mean their softsynths have the same occilators!!!!

There is more than one layer your dealing with here.
The technology that is similar is probably high level which enables you to emulate an abundance of things that are not the same at all.

You are confusing a single technolgy being used to a single occillator being used.....Somehow.

which is Arturias best synth?