Live versus electronic drums.

[herodotus]

After this last week of recording a band in a studio, I’m really, really, starting to hate the sound of unprocessed acoustic drums. I feel as though they lack the punch and energy of drum synths and sampled (overcompressed and processed) drum hits

ATA

I just couldn't resist:

http://www.disndat.info/bonham/

[Hellbilly]

I just LOVE Bonhams drumsound. It's so tight and fat.

Would be cool if those outtakes were roalty free samples

[herodotus]

I just LOVE Bonhams drumsound. It's so tight and fat.

Would be cool if those outtakes were roalty free samples

I got them from a tape op forum, and no one there knows where they came from.

But I am pretty sure that they are not royalty free samples.

[donkey tugger]

After this last week of recording a band in a studio, I’m really, really, starting to hate the sound of unprocessed acoustic drums. I feel as though they lack the punch and energy of drum synths and sampled (overcompressed and processed) drum hits

ATA

I just couldn't resist:

http://www.disndat.info/bonham/

Fuckeration! I could listen to Bonham drumming all day, it's soooooooooo heavy.

[soulata]

Honestly, I'd like to know how many of these people that claim the uselessness and obsolescence of live drummer...

... has ever *played* with a live drummer?

Or, hell, has even played *live*?

There are good reasons for not wanting to use a live drummer:

- You want to do everything yourself.
- Your music is fine with a static groove through the whole tune.
- Can't fit one into your bedroom studio.
- Don't have the gear to record one right (mixer and mics)
- Don't have the knowlede how to record one right.
- Don't know a friendly drummer.
- Can't afford to hire one.
- Can't afford studio time to record one.
- You don't ever play live.
- Don't want to deal with drum kit logistics if you do play live.
- Don't have the need to improvise live.

And, sure, some others. It might just boil down to personality conflicts with the drummers you have known, but let's be honest: don't 90% of musicians have the same attitude problems? Some overplay, some don't listen to what else is going on, and some suck infinitely more than they think. But it's not just drummers.

But some people here are just talking out their asses when they claim that nobody needs live drums. And I think much of that attitude comes from plain ignorance for what it's like to play with a *good* live drummer, or to play live music *period*.

Escape the safe confines of your bedroom sometime. Listen to something else besides your favorite genre albums over and over. Go see a band of people playing *together*, not just playing simultaneously to a machine tempo.

Get some depth of knowledge and mature as a complete musician before you tell us what the world needs.

- m

yup, exactly.

For music I make, I need live drums. I've tried many times programming them but that really sounded like shit.

I now use a few generic loops as an advanced metronome, then take the laptop and the interface to drummers rehearsal room and record him there.

It also helps a bit that I know quite some decent drummers.

k

[Omniphonix]

A. a real drumkit has 20 different snare sounds, but the sampler doesn't get drunk and hit the mics, and doesn't need 20 takes to get it's part right.

B. the sampler shows up at all the sessions, and never has to leave early for it's day gig. It also shuts up any time you want it to.

C. The sampler never quits the band, never brings it's girlfriend to the studio, never forgets it's parts, and never thinks it's ears are better than the producer's.

D. a sequencer can count and has impeccable timing, groove and dynamics, and will make the correct tempo changes every time.

E. a sampler doesn't go to the bathroom for 10 minutes every 20 minutes and come out with a runny nose.

F. most real drummers don't come with a good drumkit and vice versa.

G. a sampler won't show up in newsgroups or forums dissing real drummers

H. you'll never catch your girlfriend sucking your sampler.

I. don't need to explain any more.

ROFLMAO...

That is some funny ass shit!!!