Any thoughts on how to turn them into decent WAVs? Would remastering help and if so - what should I focus on in terms of frequency etc?
remastering MP3
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- KVRist
- 285 posts since 15 Dec, 2003
After harddisk crash I have some of my songs only as MP3 Any thoughts on how to turn them into decent WAVs? Would remastering help and if so - what should I focus on in terms of frequency etc?
Any thoughts on how to turn them into decent WAVs? Would remastering help and if so - what should I focus on in terms of frequency etc?-
- KVRist
- 154 posts since 27 Dec, 2004 from Newcastle, UK
It depends on what bitrate you mastered your MP3s at. If you mastered your MP3s at a high bitrate, say 192kbps or higher, then nobody is really going to be able to tell that your new WAV is in fact an MP3. But if your MP3s are 96kbps or something, then you'll be able to tell straightaway (or you will if you're sad like me) 
Lower bitrate MP3s can sometimes make high frequencies sound a bit funny. Also you might lose some spatial positioning in the mix if your MP3s are really low quality, like 64kbps or lower.
If the files are good quality then just export them again as a WAV in a good editing program. I think Audacity is perfectly good for most tasks like this (I use it to convert my WAVs I export from Cubase into MP3s) and it's free, too. If the files are high enough quality to start with then you shouldn't need to remaster them; if they're not, then maybe some high frequency EQ might be called for. Difficult to know without hearing the files!
Good luck with it, anyway.
Oliver
Lower bitrate MP3s can sometimes make high frequencies sound a bit funny. Also you might lose some spatial positioning in the mix if your MP3s are really low quality, like 64kbps or lower.
If the files are good quality then just export them again as a WAV in a good editing program. I think Audacity is perfectly good for most tasks like this (I use it to convert my WAVs I export from Cubase into MP3s) and it's free, too. If the files are high enough quality to start with then you shouldn't need to remaster them; if they're not, then maybe some high frequency EQ might be called for. Difficult to know without hearing the files!
Good luck with it, anyway.
Oliver
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- KVRist
- 154 posts since 27 Dec, 2004 from Newcastle, UK
Well yeah, I suppose yes you're right 
but what I was getting at is that the higher the bitrate, the better off you'll be cos the less information will have been lost.
the track on my site is up at 96kbps, 128kbps and 192kbps. The difference between the 96 and the 192 version shows what I mean (not trying nto hijack the thread, just trying to illustrate the point
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but what I was getting at is that the higher the bitrate, the better off you'll be cos the less information will have been lost.
the track on my site is up at 96kbps, 128kbps and 192kbps. The difference between the 96 and the 192 version shows what I mean (not trying nto hijack the thread, just trying to illustrate the point
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 285 posts since 15 Dec, 2003
bitrate is 128, so I guess I´ll try some high end eq...thanks, odavy. And yes, I´m the king of backups now.
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- KVRAF
- 3408 posts since 26 Mar, 2002 from london
In my experience 128 is far too low to preserve decent high end. Might be the encoders I've used, but I doubt it.
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- KVRAF
- 1907 posts since 29 Oct, 2003
don't really know how you're going to repair the 128k hi-freq *flange* ...
i used to do some serious imaging stuff prior to encoding (i.e. mono sub120hz, widening around 1.5k-4k and narrowing above 4k) and m/s compression to avoid encoding artifacts to some extent ... so my exports were halfway decent at this bitrate (when required).
but hey ttoz is selling his virtos pack, and there's some sort of *freq-resynthesyzer*. you might check it out.
i used to do some serious imaging stuff prior to encoding (i.e. mono sub120hz, widening around 1.5k-4k and narrowing above 4k) and m/s compression to avoid encoding artifacts to some extent ... so my exports were halfway decent at this bitrate (when required).
but hey ttoz is selling his virtos pack, and there's some sort of *freq-resynthesyzer*. you might check it out.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 285 posts since 15 Dec, 2003
just listened to one of the songs in my monitors. high end sounds like someone has chewed on it...indeed seems unfixable to me but I might look up the ttoc pack. thanks
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- KVRist
- 461 posts since 12 Jan, 2003 from Kyoto
EQ won't help but you can try using an exciter to give you some high end back (maybe with an LPF in front of the exciter to cut out some of the fizz first). I've done it a couple of times with low-bitrate compressed audio & had good results. Don't expect miracles, of course.
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- KVRian
- 515 posts since 24 Sep, 2004 from Neverland
ReFX had an exciter that was good for this
It was called Spectrix I think, but I can't remember the link.
That Virtos freq-resynth thingamajig sounds interesting, is there a demo version of it ?
Ok, just googled, heres the link
http://www.obertone.com/vst.html
It was called Spectrix I think, but I can't remember the link.
That Virtos freq-resynth thingamajig sounds interesting, is there a demo version of it ?
Ok, just googled, heres the link
http://www.obertone.com/vst.html
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 285 posts since 15 Dec, 2003
Try www.virtos-audio.com/products/download/band extrapolation. I'll try it on my mp3-songs. Will also look up spectrix. Thanks
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 285 posts since 15 Dec, 2003
sorry, I ment www.virtos-audio.com then click prod/downl/band...
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- KVRAF
- 4968 posts since 23 Sep, 2003 from Glasgow
Make sure that you unpack it to a .wav before doing any editing at all to it. Never directly edit an .mp3.
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- KVRian
- 515 posts since 24 Sep, 2004 from Neverland
This Virtos thing looks nice 
Oh by the way be carefull Spectrix eats CPU like nothing else
A little offtopic: How good is the DeNoiser, is it better than Waves ? (mostly for removing noise from tape)
Oh by the way be carefull Spectrix eats CPU like nothing else
A little offtopic: How good is the DeNoiser, is it better than Waves ? (mostly for removing noise from tape)