Oh Melody where have you gone...?

[soulata]

So, Do you honsetly think that Bach or Mozart would understand and succefully compose electronica if they were alive today?

I guess they would (well, maybe, depending on taste). My guess is they'd be DJing around the globe and writing film music on lappies in hotelrooms.

k

[Caleb]

My personal concern ( ) is that people know the rules and go out of their way to break them, often at the expense of self-expression. People who seem to break the same rules can sound remarkably similar to my untrained ears

As I said, I love a bit of rule-breaking, so I'm not immune anyway

But what rules are we speaking about and which music tends to break them?

If I think of alot of dance music for example I can see a huge mass of rules that people follow to compose and even sometimes to appreciate it.

Or are we talking about some different music phenomenon that is annoying people as much as - well any form of music which has strayed from the status quo in the past god-knows-how-many years.

Caleb

[donkey tugger]

[clueless]

So, Do you honsetly think that Bach or Mozart would understand and succefully compose electronica if they were alive today?

'would'? don't know. don't see why not

'could'? in a blink. and Bach could probably improvise a fully-formed piece into his laptop in one pass. well, maybe two.

[Amberience]

I think they'd be horrified at the idea of not using a piano.

[clueless]

It takes a certain kind of brainfunktion/type to appreitiate electronic sounds...not everyone can do it...but almost anyone can understand classical.

At least this is what I belive...not sure if it's true.

right, so it's fair to say that your discussing the palate of sounds used in classical and electronic music, and they ways in which these are assimilated by the listener, rather than the way in which they are employed by the composer?

[griels]

But what rules are we speaking about and which music tends to break them?

Um, something like 'Thou Shalt Have Chord Progressions and Song Structure', 'Thou Shalt Be Occasionally Harmonious', 'Thou Shalt Have a Beat What One Can Dance To', etc. But, as I say, it's just a personal, subjective thing. Something which apparently lacks structure to one person may be an architectural masterpiece to another.

Or are we talking about some different music phenomenon that is annoying people as much as - well any form of music which has strayed from the status quo in the past god-knows-how-many years.

Caleb

Hmm, it doesn't annoy me, but rather I can't latch on to it. I have trouble finding emotional or intellectual 'points of reference' within some of the more abstract sonic experiments, which I'm sure may not be the intention of many said artists. I'm thinking of electronica artists like later Autechre (though I enjoyed their 'Chiastic Slide' a lot for example, and I love some Squarepusher).

And it depends what mood I'm in. Webellious or not.

[clueless]

I think they'd be horrified at the idea of not using a piano.

Bach was a big fan of the most advanced form of additive synthesis available at the time. AFAIK You can also thank him for G flat and F sharp producing the same intonation when you press them on your controller keyboard...

[CypherOne]

I think they'd be horrified at the idea of not using a piano.

Bach was a big fan of the most advanced form of additive synthesis available at the time. AFAIK You can also thank him for G flat and F sharp producing the same intonation when you press them on your controller keyboard...

thanks Bach

[clueless]

thanks Bach

good lad

[whyterabbyt]

clueless quoth AFAIK You can also thank him for G flat and F sharp producing the same intonation when you press them on your controller keyboard...

Thus buggering up harmony good and proper.

[snooky]

It takes a certain kind of brainfunktion/type to appreitiate electronic sounds...not everyone can do it...but almost anyone can understand classical.

At least this is what I belive...not sure if it's true.

right, so it's fair to say that your discussing the palate of sounds used in classical and electronic music, and they ways in which these are assimilated by the listener, rather than the way in which they are employed by the composer?

Really, I'd love to hear them compose if they were alive today...I actually think that electronica would be their choise because it's so wide a style...

anyways, I can't answer your question, because I don't understand it...please explain.

[Meffy]

Where has Melody gone? Why, all over the world! Don't you people watch cartoons?

She's the drummer in this picture, ya sillies:



I despair for the state of modern education when people can't even remember simple things like where Melody has gone. For shame!

Meffy

P.S.: I also wonder about the musical education of any cartoon creator who could name a drummer "Melody." :-D But that's neither here nor there.

[Jazz Franco]

Où es-tu Melody...



Ah! Melody

Ah, but she died in her golden Rolls, didn't she?

[rockin1]

doesn't take much listening to understand classical music, but you can spend a whole lifetime trying to get to grips with EDM...

Well, firstly, I must say, that to me, electronic sounds are much more complex and emotive than classical music...so it was more of a personal reference...but really, the kinds of mathematical and hyper complex structures are no dif. from those of electronica...it's easier to understand classical tho'

Take a bunch of ppl (assuming that they have never heard any music in their life, impossible but wtf?) and play them a piece of classical and a piece of electronica and you'd surley get the response that the classical music is easier to listen to...of cource, it's all a matter of what those specifical tunes are...but I think you'd agree no?

Please keep in mind the difference between listening to something and enjoying or appreciating it and actually understanding it. 95% of the people at a symphony concert don't actually understand the music but most of them enjoy it and appreciate it. The same can probably be said about listeners to electronic music. Enjoyment and appreciation really has nothing to do with understanding (as you can also understand something yet not appreciate or enjoy it). The above hypothetical exercise is really irrelevant to the complexity of the music. I would alos like to point out that complexity is not the same as quality.