You could chop up the song and limit each section seperately. Or use VST automation. Do you absolutely NEED to limit at -10db though? Personally I'd just limit the entire track by whatever value the loudest bit sounds ok at. Maybe -6db? If its still a bit too quiet overall, well across an album there are loud and quiet tracks anyway - this one will just be a quieter track
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- KVRAF
- 2582 posts since 24 Apr, 2003 from Canada
If I understand the problem correctly:
You could chop up the song and limit each section seperately. Or use VST automation. Do you absolutely NEED to limit at -10db though? Personally I'd just limit the entire track by whatever value the loudest bit sounds ok at. Maybe -6db? If its still a bit too quiet overall, well across an album there are loud and quiet tracks anyway - this one will just be a quieter track
You could chop up the song and limit each section seperately. Or use VST automation. Do you absolutely NEED to limit at -10db though? Personally I'd just limit the entire track by whatever value the loudest bit sounds ok at. Maybe -6db? If its still a bit too quiet overall, well across an album there are loud and quiet tracks anyway - this one will just be a quieter track
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 142 posts since 4 Jun, 2004
Thanx you so much for trying to help guys!
kylen,I know it may be a bit hard to understand what I mean,I could possibly post an mp3 but it will not be as accurate.
I don't know if some screenshots from the waveform would help.
By the way:
The song is mixed in a way so that there is enough headroom(about 2db).But the song is not meant to be quiet.It's a powerful track so I need to make it hot.Right now if I use only a limiter(L3 or Waves L2 Hardware)I have to set a threshold at about -10 or -11 db so that it attenuates the peaks.
Of course I can raise the volume manually therefore reducing the headroom but I don't think this will make any difference at all.
I think I have to experiment with a bit I suppose
kylen,I know it may be a bit hard to understand what I mean,I could possibly post an mp3 but it will not be as accurate.
I don't know if some screenshots from the waveform would help.
By the way:
The song is mixed in a way so that there is enough headroom(about 2db).But the song is not meant to be quiet.It's a powerful track so I need to make it hot.Right now if I use only a limiter(L3 or Waves L2 Hardware)I have to set a threshold at about -10 or -11 db so that it attenuates the peaks.
Of course I can raise the volume manually therefore reducing the headroom but I don't think this will make any difference at all.
I think I have to experiment with a bit I suppose
- KVRAF
- 11375 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
There is one really radical solution which might not work at all but I've had some success with it on weird tracks. Use 2 voxengo elephants in series (I know what you're thinking, your reaction is probably
). Set the first on one of the AIGC modes and drive the input until it tames just the first peaks, then the second Elephant should be in EL-3 Mode to do the final limiting.
Cheers!
bManic
Cheers!
bManic
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 142 posts since 4 Jun, 2004
LOL!Indeed!bmanic wrote:There is one really radical solution which might not work at all but I've had some success with it on weird tracks. Use 2 voxengo elephants in series (I know what you're thinking, your reaction is probably![]()
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). Set the first on one of the AIGC modes and drive the input until it tames just the first peaks, then the second Elephant should be in EL-3 Mode to do the final limiting.
Cheers!
bManic
Seriously now,I would like to try this(it has some logic in it,it could work!)but I don't have voxengo Elephant.Well,I suppose there is a demo so I'll try that.
However if I am going to buy something right now,a mastering compressor would be welcome.I already have two limiters!I don't want more
