SAMPLITUDE RULES (DAW Summing)

[Jaeson Merrill]

Yep u r right. Keep things simple so even you can keep up

Astonishing how many idiots use that one. Not usually u r but I guess you're an AOL kiddie.

Your idiocy hasn?t stopped amazing me since day one that I started this tread. You started name calling for no apparent reason other than your inability to showcase your point of view with facts rather than, how can i put this gently, bull*** and I?m not going to reply with an insult even though I easily could, cause we have filled the forum with enough s***.

And interesting you commenting on me replacing the you are with u r (I just use that for speed), when your sentence is grammatically wrong.

Grow up already

speed huh?

but do you have computer hacking and nunchuck skills?

what about cage fighter reflexes?

[g_montel]

The subject was about Samplitude so I have a question on the new version.
One thing that I didn't like last time I checked it is that it wasn't possible to automate aux send. Did it remain like this ?

Is it possible to assign midi controllers to them ?

thanks

geoffroy

[popsych]

The subject was about Samplitude so I have a question on the new version.
One thing that I didn't like last time I checked it is that it wasn't possible to automate aux send. Did it remain like this ?

Is it possible to assign midi controllers to them ?

thanks

geoffroy

Nope. It's not from what i can see in my demo. Sadly samplitude is lacking a bit in the automation approach mainly due to the object approach. I see though that it has vpots operating them when with MAckie control so we must be missing something

[Kraznet]

The subject was about Samplitude so I have a question on the new version.
One thing that I didn't like last time I checked it is that it wasn't possible to automate aux send. Did it remain like this ?

Since becoming a Samplitude V8 user I've learnt alot of things from the User Forum. Firstly it is possible to Automate AUX sends but not in the traditional method but on an object level.Each object has it's own editor and if you cut an object you can edit each object individually. This means adding FX/VST's , Timestretch/Pitchshifting , crossfades etc etc. Each object will have it's own aux send controls as well . To automate you just cut the audio at the position that you want and then add a linear crossfade which fade up the AUX send .I've been experimenting with this and although unusual it works pretty well . Incidentally a Samplitude developer had stated that they will be implementing a new method of automating aux sends although he wasn't specific .

Kraznet

[popsych]

The subject was about Samplitude so I have a question on the new version.
One thing that I didn't like last time I checked it is that it wasn't possible to automate aux send. Did it remain like this ?

Since becoming a Samplitude V8 user I've learnt alot of things from the User Forum. Firstly it is possible to Automate AUX sends but not in the traditional method but on an object level.Each object has it's own editor and if you cut an object you can edit each object individually. This means adding FX/VST's , Timestretch/Pitchshifting , crossfades etc etc. Each object will have it's own aux send controls as well . To automate you just cut the audio at the position that you want and then add a linear crossfade which fade up the AUX send .I've been experimenting with this and although unusual it works pretty well . Incidentally a Samplitude developer had stated that they will be implementing a new method of automating aux sends although he wasn't specific .

Kraznet

Object based automation is GREAT but i still think that since the object based one is so well implemented they should try and develop the track-based one too, as these too work in complementary form. Some things track based can do better and vice versa. Don't really care about aux sends but for a general track based automation overhaul

[Alcahest]

Hi popsych,no problem you can automate all Vsti and Vst Parameter trackbased.Actually much better than with the Steinberg stuff since you can move the Vsti parameter curve's with the objects.If you create some keycommands it works very good and fast.
Greetings
Fred

[popsych]

Hi popsych,no problem you can automate all Vsti and Vst Parameter trackbased.Actually much better than with the Steinberg stuff since you can move the Vsti parameter curve's with the objects.If you create some keycommands it works very good and fast.
Greetings
Fred

Sterinberg is not a reference point in the same way you can't compare something to zero . I was doing the host test in samp, then tried to do in SX but just got soooooooooooo annoyed from the interface for such a simple issue i switched to audition

[UltraJv]

If all DAWs were like Samplitude, everyone would complain. That means no competition, no innovation and nothing new. Its a trait of youth to try to convince the world that its way is the right way. What happened to the wisdom? Some of the best music was recorded on a few tracks of lo fi tape. Seems that people are getting so techie and geeky about this that they forget the point...

[kilroy]

Some of the best music was recorded on a few tracks of lo fi tape. Seems that people are getting so techie and geeky about this that they forget the point...

Aye...then the ulimate irony is that all those technically geeky tracks get smashed to utter shite in the mastering.

Blimey...so much for any alleged DAW summing advantages. You could double...nay, triple the potential quality of the tools tomorrow and it would stand for nowt.



Lo fi audio has never enjoyed such longevity.

[ericj23]

amen

im a huge lee perry fan - all the classic 1975-1979 stuff is recorded on a shit 4 track desk - with lots of tracks being bounced down - so it sounds compressed distorted and generaly horrible

BUT

frankly they are more hypnotic and deeper than anything since - yet they were recorded on equipment that would cost about £200 these days - well apart from the phaser and space echo

but still anyone could do it











if they had the talented in house musicians and the ear for a good noise










which i don't god damn it

[hifiboom]

Samplitude sounds better than Cubase.....

that is a fact...

I won`t go too far and say it is the summing engine or something like that....

I did a A/B test with to simple one-note play on a VSTi, and they both sounded the same.
I also studied informatics and know that digital opertions have no soundquality, so all hosts SHOULD sound the same theoretical.
But I also am a musician and I trust my ears.

And when I do a complete mix with lets say about 10 VSTi and some samples the cubase mix just sounds not as punchy as the Samplitude mix. It sounds more dull.

I`m sure its not the summing, it may be a problem with the samples getting out of right phase. Maybe there are bugs in the implementation.
I can`t say what it is, but I can hear it.

No voodoo here....

And I have to say, that some people on the developer side are quite aggressive against other opinions.

A host like Cubase is such a big project. If just one person does make a mistake in programming the signal/summing/something else path, this bug may add with every calculation that is done in this host.

That is nothing out of the physics and the rules of maths...

every machine is programmed by a human being, and these always do mistakes.(you can trust this because it is a FACT too) No system is that intelligent to detect these human generated mistakes. And it will work down those bugs with a conciseness of a machine.

Mr nuffink has done fine work with his impulse response plug-in ( for sure ), but he is quite ignorant and denying about others opinions...

I don`t like this way in a discussion. not very constuctive at all.

[Colonel Flashback]

I can hear it.

And that's the important thing...

[stag]

I can hear it.

And that's the important thing...

You bet it is, that´s why i don´t use Samplititude.

[woc53]

Saying one DAW program sounds better than another is like throwing fresh meat to the lions in an audio forum. You might as well be debating the existence of God.

People can express opinions or make assertions on just about any other subject without the predictable free-for-all.

"Frankly, my dear..."

(Oh, for the record, I think Sawstudio and Samp/Sequoia have hands-down the best audio recording and summing engines. If I'm a "flat-earther," that's fine. Fustonize this...)

[HanafiH]

Hey it's easy. There's a 30MB or so demonstration version anybody can download from the Samplitude web site. If you can't hear it, then hell it ain't there, is it?