Video tutorial of sidechaining in CubaseSX with Compadre

[Rune L-H]

Hi,

I know there has already been good detailed descriptions of how to accomplish stereo sidechaining in CubaseSX, but it always look kinda hairy when going through it in writing. So for those who have interest, I have completed a video tutorial of this technique in CubaseSX.

Download it here: Sidechaining in CubaseSX using Compadre VST (6,87MB)

Note that it's not meant to demonstrate any audio processing, but simply the routing aspects...so please don't comment my poor bass riffs

Best regards,
Rune

[Rune L-H]

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[Kingston]

It's the exact same technique with every true sidechaining compressor out there (crunchessor/slim slow slider etc). You might wanna advertise that as well.

This is such a nice tutorial, makes it look really easy.

[egbert]

What if you have mono bass and kick tracks and you want to save some CPU and use Mono SC of Compadre?

This worked fine for me in SX3:
Input 2 (Right Channel) is the key input.
So insert MonoSC into a stereo group (instead of the Quadro Group), pan the key signal [kick track(s)] to the right channel of this Group and the target signal (bass) to the left of this Group.

Use the "stereo combined" panner to recenter the mono bass signal in the Stereo group where you inserted Compadre.

Any corrections are welcome.

Eg

[Chris Berlin]

Until now I never quiet understood how to use sidechains in cubase, so thank you very much.
Very pro looking and easy to follow tutorial movie.
What I don´t understand is, why the bassdrum and the bass need sidechaining. I remember flea from the rhcp saying that it´s often important to play the bassgroove unisono with the bassdrum.
Does this ducking / sidechaining really help the groove? Can someone post a example for this. With / without sidechaining. To hear the improvement? Do I miss something?

[egbert]

Until now I never quiet understood how to use sidechains in cubase, so thank you very much.
Very pro looking and easy to follow tutorial movie.
What I don´t understand is, why the bassdrum and the bass need sidechaining. I remember flea from the rhcp saying that it´s often important to play the bassgroove unisono with the bassdrum.
Does this ducking / sidechaining really help the groove? Can someone post a example for this. With / without sidechaining. To hear the improvement? Do I miss something?

My understanding of the kick/bass SC thing is that it enables you to bring out the kick drum sound in a situations where it is being masked by a dominant bass sound.

The Eq aproach to this same problem is to judiciously boost and cut with a parametric Eq to help separate the bass frequencies for the bass and kick tracks so that they don't tread on one another so much. Separate compression of bass and kick to tame the levels will also help.

If you still don't feel the bottom end of the groove is working as well as it could, you might want to try this technique and see if it makes an improvement.

Eg

[Kingston]

Why does everybody always only talk about ducking the bass with kick drum?

The best use for sidechains is the generation of groove in all kinds of tracks. Drums to bass, snare to pads, bass transients to acoustic guitar, acoustic guitar transients to drum room mics, funk guitar to pads, hihat to solo synth...

Time to get creative people! It's a treasure chest of volume automation.

I for one am going to create a song where everything is interactively and dynamicly moving around. Gonna be fun and groovy in a new way.

[egbert]

The best use for sidechains is the generation of groove in all kinds of tracks. Drums to bass, snare to pads, bass transients to acoustic guitar, acoustic guitar transients to drum room mics, funk guitar to pads, hihat to solo synth...

Some great suggestions there Mr K.

[Sascha Franck]

Thanks for the tutorial, Rune, excellent.

Regarding RHCP: I find the deeper spectrum of all of their latest records to be utterly lousy, really bad productions. So, Flea (while being an excellent bass player) seriously is no reference when it comes to anything such as sonic quality.

[seti808]

does this work with uad-1 or any really good software compressors?


i take it the compressor must have a sidechain on it right?

[Kingston]

i take it the compressor must have a sidechain on it right?

Right now there's at least 3 excellent true sidechaining compressors(in no peticular order): Voxengo Crunchessor, COMPADRE and even the free Slim Slow Slider side chain comp.



as a sidenote, I finally got around doing a full mix with properly sidechained Compadre in it (ducked movement on bass and pads) and I have to say the results were absolute stunning!

[LOGAN]

Hello,

I would LOVE to see this video but I cant get it to play on my Mac... even using Windows Media Player or VLC.

Ive left alot of posts about sidechaining in Cubase... aka how to!

All the long winded text answers dont do it for me...

[cptgone]

Hello,

I would LOVE to see this video but I cant get it to play on my Mac... even using Windows Media Player or VLC.

it comes as an executable and has it's own player.

[Kingston]

Hello,

I would LOVE to see this video but I cant get it to play on my Mac... even using Windows Media Player or VLC.

it comes as an executable and has it's own player.

yes, for *WINDOWS*

[Rune L-H]

Hello,

I would LOVE to see this video but I cant get it to play on my Mac... even using Windows Media Player or VLC.

it comes as an executable and has it's own player.

Actually it's just a wrapped up .avi videofile and the Camtasia Player. You should be able to unpack it all using a flexible unpacker (such as WinRar). Also you need the TechSmith EnSharpen Codec:
http://www.techsmith.com/download/ensha ... dEnSharpen

Hope it helps