Song structure, hmmm, maybe as well!! I was tempted to have the Bb in there, but it is very definitely a full and mot a minor third interval there.duncanparsons wrote:I was lead to believe that it was to do with the song structure, but could never quite work it out.. but it obviously wasn't a proper transposition, as it should be GAGBbGA to preserve the intervals...C00kie wrote:...ABACAB by Genesis.
G or A?
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- KVRAF
- 6937 posts since 4 Jun, 2004 from Utrecht, Holland
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- KVRAF
- 2631 posts since 17 Apr, 2004
ah yes, but Bb is a B, rightduncanparsons wrote:I was lead to believe that it was to do with the song structure, but could never quite work it out.. but it obviously wasn't a proper transposition, as it should be GAGBbGA to preserve the intervals...
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- KVRAF
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
ooh...sjm wrote:ah yes, but Bb is a B, rightduncanparsons wrote:I was lead to believe that it was to do with the song structure, but could never quite work it out.. but it obviously wasn't a proper transposition, as it should be GAGBbGA to preserve the intervals...
Clever...
Subtle..
Otherwise it would be GAGHGA, and that starts to sound a little too much like a popular Queen ditty from a year or two later.. maybe that's what they took as their inspiration..!
DSP
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- KVRAF
- 2631 posts since 17 Apr, 2004
duncanparsons wrote: ooh...
Clever...
Subtle..
Otherwise it would be GAGHGA, and that starts to sound a little too much like a popular Queen ditty from a year or two later...
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- KVRAF
- 3057 posts since 9 Apr, 2003
nothing against G, but I much prefer A
well actually I'm holding back about G
better stop here
well actually I'm holding back about G
better stop here
5 twelve
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- KVRAF
- 2217 posts since 15 Jul, 2003
if you ever get to a concert to hear the orchestra tuning up, it's an 'A'
hear it enough and even a pitch-challenged person like myself can find it
maestro used to sing 'give me an 'A'
440 hz
very nice round number
fascinating thread
http://www.harpcolumn.com/bboard/q-and- ... _id=000167
hear it enough and even a pitch-challenged person like myself can find it
maestro used to sing 'give me an 'A'
440 hz
very nice round number
Question: How does an orchestra tune and what note does it tune to?
Answer: When the concert time actually begins, generally the lights dim and the concertmaster/concertmistress walks onstage, bows, and then faces the orchestra. At this time, the oboist plays an "A," and then musicians begin to tune in a predetermined order. Sometimes it starts with the strings and then goes to the winds and brass, at other times it may involve three or four "A's" starting with the winds, brass, lower strings, and then the upper strings (violins and violas). The "A" is the traditional pitch to tune to (although in bands, they often tune to a "Bb"). The actual pitch of the "A" (measured in Hertz or cycles per second) has greatly changed over the years, but most modern orchestras tune to an "A" set at 440 Hertz or somewhere between 438 and 445 Hertz. Baroque players, however, can tune much lower (often as low as 415 Hertz) because pitch rose greatly since the Baroque period.
Question: Do all orchestras tune the same way?
Answer: It is standard throughout all modern orchestras to tune to the oboe (primarily because of tradition, but it is said that the oboe is the least flexible instrument after the piano).
fascinating thread
http://www.harpcolumn.com/bboard/q-and- ... _id=000167
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- KVRAF
- 1981 posts since 26 Oct, 2003 from Toronto
"That's a beautiful piece you're playing..."
"Aaaaw, right. It's a piece I've been working on for the last 6 months or so. Very subtle and serene. All focused around a D minor - which is like 'the saddest chord of all'. Listen to it, it's just like Daaaaaaaa...."
"But it really is a pretty piece. So smooth and emotional. Do you have a name for it?"
"Ahhh, yeh - Lick My Love Pump"
- Rob Reiner and Chris Guest should be inducted to the Rock 'N Roll Hall Of Fame just for that segment alone! 
"Aaaaw, right. It's a piece I've been working on for the last 6 months or so. Very subtle and serene. All focused around a D minor - which is like 'the saddest chord of all'. Listen to it, it's just like Daaaaaaaa...."
"But it really is a pretty piece. So smooth and emotional. Do you have a name for it?"
"Ahhh, yeh - Lick My Love Pump"
- Rob Reiner and Chris Guest should be inducted to the Rock 'N Roll Hall Of Fame just for that segment alone! 
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Stupid American Pig Stupid American Pig https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=4753 - KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
ha ha agreedSteven West wrote:"That's a beautiful piece you're playing..."
"Aaaaw, right. It's a piece I've been working on for the last 6 months or so. Very subtle and serene. All focused around a D minor - which is like 'the saddest chord of all'. Listen to it, it's just like Daaaaaaaa...."
"But it really is a pretty piece. So smooth and emotional. Do you have a name for it?"
"Ahhh, yeh - Lick My Love Pump"
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
A, like, totally rules.
Proof you want? Here: find me a synth with a "G392" switch. No? Now find a synth with an "A440" switch. Hah. QED. A. Always A. Oh yeah.
Proof you want? Here: find me a synth with a "G392" switch. No? Now find a synth with an "A440" switch. Hah. QED. A. Always A. Oh yeah.
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Stupid American Pig Stupid American Pig https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=4753
- KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
I think meffy solved that case, and to add doesnt everyone tune to a=440? eh eh
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
don't forget that A is the relative minor of C, thus as the key of C is the only perfect major key A is the only perfect minor key (just white keys).
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRAF
- 2548 posts since 7 Jul, 2003 from Huntington, WV
Well, a lot of people actually tune to "E". (Does anyone remember guitars?) My father even has an old Vox guitar amp with a built-in "E" signal generator. Just slide a little switch on the back, and a nice steady E pitch is generated.
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
Oops, I see wrench was there before me... heh... well, I still says that if it hasn't a switch on yer Moog, it ain't worth ensconcing in yer future generations' proto-tech folklore. Harr, that I says. A.
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
It is. Very.sjm wrote: FYI, german-speakers DO use H (don't ask me why)
[...]
I find it nuts
On the other hand, someone was able to compose something using only "BACH".
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRAF
- 2631 posts since 17 Apr, 2004
now all it does is confuse my music discussionsSascha Franck wrote:It is. Very.
On the other hand, someone was able to compose something using only "BACH".
I've lost track of the number of times I've felt it necessary to explain what I meant when outlining my latest song's chord progression.
