Simple tests to compare M:M and MMV
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- KVRist
- 79 posts since 4 Aug, 2002 from Utah
Ok, I made 3 wave files from the 3 softsynths. They were all recorded at the same time in Cubase with the same peak but normalized individually afterwards. I used the default patch for both synths and tried to match the sound on the Minimax. It's just a long held note at first C3 then C2. The files are 16 bit/44 Khz and about 1MB each. Who wants to host them?
L8ter Oscill8ters!
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- KVRist
- 462 posts since 31 Jan, 2003
Man-Machine I'm on the list:
mao.cla@libero.it
Red_Force... as you can see there's a lot of blah blah people and a lot of interested. In an emulation these comparison are a must.
I play a Moog Voyager and I'm really interested in this comparison. If you have to choose one you must test the demo in the same condition. Thanks again Red_Force.
mao.cla@libero.it
Red_Force... as you can see there's a lot of blah blah people and a lot of interested. In an emulation these comparison are a must.
I play a Moog Voyager and I'm really interested in this comparison. If you have to choose one you must test the demo in the same condition. Thanks again Red_Force.
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- KVRist
- 415 posts since 18 Dec, 2003
yeah no shit. I would like to see more tech stuff, such as comparisons from the Monsta to the MM to the original moog, all on uneffected wav files. Let's stop wasting time and get right to the heart of the matter.
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- Banned
- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
Chaps, im not dissing the test or you at all, my point was that the devs do all the tech stuff to provide you with a decent synth. If i spent all my days worrying if MMV or MM was technically the same as the original, id never write any music, and thats what the synth is for.
My guess is that most ppl would never get hold of the original to test anyway, and any sounds they have heard ahave been processed in some form, so its not a true representation of the original sound.
If the test results conluded that synth x doesnt sound exactly the same as hardware synth x, but you like the sound of it, would you still use it knowing it was an exact copy?
Anyway, im waffling.
My guess is that most ppl would never get hold of the original to test anyway, and any sounds they have heard ahave been processed in some form, so its not a true representation of the original sound.
If the test results conluded that synth x doesnt sound exactly the same as hardware synth x, but you like the sound of it, would you still use it knowing it was an exact copy?
Anyway, im waffling.
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- KVRist
- 415 posts since 18 Dec, 2003
If I was paying $ for an emulation synth I would want whichever emulation synth sounded closest to the real thing. If I wanted a synth of the future, I would get a Korg Z1 - which I already own 
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- KVRist
- 462 posts since 31 Jan, 2003
Kriminal:
It's an emulation ! ! !
Sounds good is not the key.
More it's sounds the same more it can be called emulation... It's so simple...
If you do a whistle emualtion sounding like a wonderful trumpet... well you are wasting your time...
It's an emulation ! ! !
Sounds good is not the key.
More it's sounds the same more it can be called emulation... It's so simple...
If you do a whistle emualtion sounding like a wonderful trumpet... well you are wasting your time...
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- Banned
- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
Im aware its an emulation, im also aaware the MM goes a lot further than that.mao wrote:Kriminal:
It's an emulation ! ! !
Sounds good is not the key.
More it's sounds the same more it can be called emulation... It's so simple...
Seriously, how many of you have a Moog sitting there that you can do an A/B test with?
If the tests prove that neither sound like an original Moog, will you not buy them basd on that info only, or would you try them and see what they sound like?
Maybe i look at it a diff way to the rest of you
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- KVRian
- 604 posts since 7 Jul, 2004 from Somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd dimensions.
That's the ultimate question when it comes to emulation as far as I'm concerned. My answer would be no, mainly because many of these iffy emulations are really expensive (you are paying for the name and not getting the actual sound), you might as well hang around on eBay for a while and pick up the real thing.Kriminal wrote:If the test results conluded that synth x doesnt sound exactly the same as hardware synth x, but you like the sound of it, would you still use it knowing it was an exact copy?
Analogue or digital – which is better? There's only one way to find out... FI-I-IGHT!!!
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- KVRer
- 18 posts since 29 Jan, 2003
[quote="Kriminal"]Chaps, im not dissing the test or you at all, my point was that the devs do all the tech stuff to provide you with a decent synth.
Well, some of us (me at least) is more interested in an exact (or as exact as possible) replication of the minimoog sound than a decent synth.
Well, some of us (me at least) is more interested in an exact (or as exact as possible) replication of the minimoog sound than a decent synth.
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- Banned
- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
Do you have a Moog?reasonman wrote:
Well, some of us (me at least) is more interested in an exact (or as exact as possible) replication of the minimoog sound than a decent synth.
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- KVRist
- 440 posts since 11 Jul, 2003
my point exactlyChaps, im not dissing the test or you at all, my point was that the devs do all the tech stuff to provide you with a decent synth. If i spent all my days worrying if MMV or MM was technically the same as the original, id never write any music, and thats what the synth is for.
Indeedwankery.
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- KVRian
- 604 posts since 7 Jul, 2004 from Somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd dimensions.
I don't have a Moog, and probably never will. I'd like to own and use one, i.e. have that classic sound at my disposal but they're so rare and expensive. If only there was some other way...Kriminal wrote:Do you have a Moog?reasonman wrote:
Well, some of us (me at least) is more interested in an exact (or as exact as possible) replication of the minimoog sound than a decent synth.
I see Krim's point about what a synth is for and completely agree; at the same time I feel that a good emulation is a way of immortalising a classic and making it available to everyone. Whether you decide to use it all the time in your music is another matter.
I probably won't buy Minimonsta, purely because it's a fairly big investment for something I would use sparingly.
Analogue or digital – which is better? There's only one way to find out... FI-I-IGHT!!!
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- KVRAF
- 1651 posts since 14 May, 2002 from Earth
here's a simple test: Check out the filters on each of them. I've got to say that the MiniMonsta's filter is really awesome sounding, while the Arturia one sounds very stepped to me when you introduce resonance.
I'm not Moog owner or anything, but I like the MiniMonsta better on a lot of different things - the filter, the melohman octave, the modulation stuff, hell even the GUI and the way the knobs turn when you click on them feels better to me. Weather you're a Moog fanatic or not the MiniMonsta is a great synth, and it's capable of a lot of different stuff.
I'm not Moog owner or anything, but I like the MiniMonsta better on a lot of different things - the filter, the melohman octave, the modulation stuff, hell even the GUI and the way the knobs turn when you click on them feels better to me. Weather you're a Moog fanatic or not the MiniMonsta is a great synth, and it's capable of a lot of different stuff.
