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esl · Post by **esl** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:36 pm

I was reading in CM magazine that some people, when mixing down, put VW on every track. That is, they use a very "mild" setting on the effect, just to "warm" up the track....every track.

I think they are referring to the pre-mastering mixdown phase.

Does anyone actually do this?

Ixox · Post by **Ixox** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:49 pm

Yes

EDITED : No !!!

plastic · Post by **plastic** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:54 pm

i dunno...i rarely use VW anymore...it has a harsh digital edge i can't stand anymore since i had the chance working with real tube gear.
the warming voxengo plugins are getting much closer.
i love the VW interface though, and it's 99% there...i hope it will be updated.

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:07 pm

plastic wrote:i dunno...i rarely use VW anymore...it has a harsh digital edge i can't stand anymore since i had the chance working with real tube gear.

Agreed. VW on all tracks would be mix destruction.

JeffSanders · Post by **JeffSanders** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:07 pm

VW masks the spirit in an acoustic instrument's tone. I'd much rather use a UAD-1 la2a, Pultec or Fairchild to achieve the warming purpose.
Or HarmoniEQ. HarmoniEQ sounds pristine and warm without farting on an instrument's nuances and subtleties in tone.

kylen · Post by **kylen** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:17 pm

esl wrote:I was reading in CM magazine that some people, when mixing down, put VW on every track. That is, they use a very "mild" setting on the effect, just to "warm" up the track....every track.

It might be easier to judge if you invite them over here see if they'll display some samples!

JeffSanders · Post by **JeffSanders** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:20 pm

I notice that about CM magazine!!

Man do they have a hardon for VW. Personally I think it can really take the vibrance out of a track!

crimsontider · Post by **crimsontider** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:54 pm

I use VW once for all channels and maybe one or two by themselves to warm up an analog emu.

Lazlo Minimart · Post by **Lazlo Minimart** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:56 pm

Of course it depends on the source material. VW can work... sometimes.

However, seems like every time I listen to something I mastered using VW today, I can only hear the grit and digital "grunge" that I must've heard as "warmth" a year or two ago.

I find that boosting the lows with Pultec Pro, or adding 1-2db of compression with the LA2A plug can get me where I want to be with fewer artifacts. Voxengo's AnalogFlux Tape Bus can work well sometimes, too. Again... it totally depends on the source material.

Kim Lajoie · Post by **Kim Lajoie** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:06 pm

I don't know about VintageWarmer, but I put Amplitube on every track.

Forever,

Kim.

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:36 pm

hmmmnnn ... id have thought a VW on every track (no matter how mild) is probably overdoing it ...

... however ... one instance slapped over the whole mix can often work wonders ...

slainte

rob

Jafo · Post by **Jafo** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:45 pm

Slightly tangential, but I used to put Dominion (the "Poor Man's Vintage Warmer"

) on every track, and wondered why my mixes had so much mud and mush... but putting in on the master and maybe one or two tracks does a great job. Same with (the demo of) Warmifier.

Ixox · Post by **Ixox** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:55 am

Ixox wrote:Yes

OK I meant on every mixdown (whole mix) not on evey track !!!

putte · Post by **putte** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:03 pm

i have it in my master.

putte

jones-y · Post by **jones-y** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:15 pm

I don't use it on my master, but I absolutely love it on drums

I'm still trying to figure out how best to use it on vocals. putte?

vintage warmer on every track during mixdown?