Samplitude 8 or Cubase SX3? Your opinions please...

[popsych]

And ericj23 if you can't see the obvious difference between what we are saying about objects then please stick to SX. Samp deserves better

frankly suck my cock - and you won't get paid bitch- thats just cheap - like you

i understand perfectly samplitudes editing - it is better than cubase - my point has always been that it isnt so much better to justify the cost of changing

ultimately if you want to start a pissing up the wall contest I can start talking midi - it may be improved in samplitude but it still aint anywhere near cubase goodor how about the intgration of external kit or play order tracks - or acid and rex implementation etc

im still sticking to my point - why bother changing ?
if it was free i could see that the stress of learning how a new program might work out
But samplitude has absolutely nothing in it that will make your music so much better - it just gives a slightly different way of getting there so why bother ?

If the guy is really set he can try the demo - i'm sure he already has

PS if you are trying to get a point across I wouldnt quote kylie minogue OK - a fondness for sex dwarfs isnt big or clever - and it is useful to imply the latter during any discourse

Ericj23, i doubt 23 marks your age - at least i hope it doesn't, otherwise i'll have to shoot you down to prevent the unbearable thought of the continuation of your genes. Honestly if that's the best you can do with a response : Just don't bother .

I know it may seem i'm making Samp sound like god - I also know it's not and it's lacking in many departments, such as MIDI yes. I forgot to ask him whether he does more MIDI or Audio work as i did that in the PT alternatives thread, and thought i did here too. What i like about Samp is that it seems to be designed with the user in mind and i think MIDI will improve vastly in the next major release. For now i wouldn't touch it for MIDI as i'm still too attached to logic and would miss the functionality terribly but then again SX doesn't suit me for the same reason so it may suit him.

And as for the kylie thing, my ear must have caught it off the radio - liked the phrase. Good thing you told me it's from a kylie song : i would never intentionally listen to her enough to know it was hers, or ever manage to be that gay - you assistance is most appreciated. NOT

[popsych]

Thanks for the feedback so far guys.

Looks like there's a lot of happy Samplitude users about.

I wonder why people curse Cubase so much, I mean it did do well in the KVR survey. I didn't notice Samplitude in any of the top 10, which is a mystery seeing as so many people worship it.

I am currently having a good look at the demo version of Samplitude 8. I will report back with my views.

In the meantime, please keep your opinions coming!

thanks again people!

John

Two words on that -
1) More people go to McDonnalds than good gourmet restaurants
2) Since SX has been around longer and has a bigger userbase considering the userbase numbers i think about 5% satisfied cubase customers would be more than 70-80% (at least) satisfied samplitude customers.

On another note, i am yet to see more than a dozen of people who've owned Samp and are disatisfied with it - NOT so with cubase (even with percentages it's more) being one myself.

[Mr. Slater's Parrot]

Jens (or anyone else familiar with Samplitude-8 )

Does Samplitude-8 have midi ghost/linked clips, yet?

[ericj23]

Ericj23, i doubt 23 marks your age - at least i hope it doesn't, otherwise i'll have to shoot you down to prevent the unbearable thought of the continuation of your genes. Honestly if that's the best you can do with a response : Just don't bother .

dont worry - i wont pass on my genes becuase you will be too busy sucking my cock

You started a slagging match (badly) and then you complain that my slaggin isnt good

beeeeeatttchhhh

my point has been well made several times - yours has not - why bother - or do you just like wasting money - €450 for an upgrade to a sequencer that wont make music better or a powercore, or a uad, or an alesis micron, or a handful of softsynths

percentages of satisfied customers - your nor satisfying me - and your still down there

it could be something to do with people trying the demo and hating it(like me) and not bothering - a logic replacement you must be joking - clumsy implementaion of so many things - useless midi, poor vst set up, laughable automation etc - so all the customers are people who dont need these features - cubase has no demo but a big name so people who dont know better buy it - not one of steinberg finest marketing desciscions but hell - the guy were helping here already owns it - so he knows pretty much what its like

he's trying the demo so why do you have to go on this evangelical trip to convince people of your sequencers correctness ?

[popsych]

he's trying the demo so why do you have to go on this evangelical trip to convince people of your sequencers correctness ?

Ι'm not. U kept bashing it . And it's not my sequencer of choice. LOGIC still is.

dont worry - i wont pass on my genes becuase you will be too busy sucking my cock

You started a slagging match (badly) and then you complain that my slaggin isnt good

beeeeeatttchhhh

percentages of satisfied customers - your nor satisfying me - and your still down there

While i'm down there , trying so hard, would you mind dropping telescope - i still just don't see a thing

Sorry you guys for the slagging match - But i have to stay on top -
ericj23 : If i can get it to be this big will you at least believe i am capable of miracles

[ericj23]

Ι'm not. U kept bashing it . And it's not my sequencer of choice. LOGIC still is.

oddly enough i never bashed it on this thread- can you read ?

Also did you notice who recommended samplitude first on the pro fools thread - have a guess

a hint - it wasn't you


The lack of literacy does explain why you still haven't actually answered any of my points from my last post - ill keep the sentences short

you are not talking features

you are talking bullocks

is that clear ?

and finally answer the question - why spend €450 for something that will in no way (that anyone has mentioned) improve his ability to make music

[cptgone]

Stop it guys. Either adress the topic or take this fight elsewhere.

[popsych]

Ι'm not. U kept bashing it . And it's not my sequencer of choice. LOGIC still is.

oddly enough i never bashed it on this thread- can you read ?

Also did you notice who recommended samplitude first on the pro fools thread - have a guess

a hint - it wasn't you


The lack of literacy does explain why you still haven't actually answered any of my points from my last post - ill keep the sentences short

you are not talking features

you are talking bullocks

is that clear ?

and finally answer the question - why spend €450 for something that will in no way (that anyone has mentioned) improve his ability to make music

Good thing my last post stopped you from slagging mode. I only revert to it when forced.

My main argument both for features and if it's worth $450 is that he should decide based on how works.

For e.g. I kept hearing that the environment in Logic makes it complicated. I also heard that it makes it powerful. Tried it. After that i just don't like a conventional mixer and especially channel strip.

Object based approach for e.g. could improve his workflow, or just not appeal to him him. My point was that it IS different and not directly transferable in Cubase. Never implied it was a better way of working or not

[Jaeson Merrill]

as the top 5 of them can all do about the same things, what's the point?

oh so untrue!

Cubase isn't object-orientated for a start...

this for me is a VERY big thing.
then again, i do all my midi/vsti in FLStudio so..

[Jaeson Merrill]

http://www.samplitude.com/de/sam_FE.htm

"As an enhancement to the traditional concept of mixer-supported editing of complete tracks, all versions offer countless possibilities for direct real-time sample editing. Recorded audio tracks can thus be cut into as many objects as you wish.
Every object can be edited with individual fades and effects, such as Equalizer, Timestretching, Pitchshifting or plugins. Samplitude also offers Aux-Sends on the object level, the well-known linearphase mastering effects, and a widely variable signal flow."

I take it this "object editing" is non-destructive, just like VST automation? Sounds like a wonderful feature.

also, VST and other effects are not being used until the object is triggered. EAT that cubase!

[Jaeson Merrill]

as the top 5 of them can all do about the same things, what's the point?

oh so untrue!

Cubase isn't object-orientated for a start...

eh what people listen to the tune you made and go that one was object orientated

but heres a hint - cubase upgrade €150

crossgrade to new program €600

so you want to pay €450 for the "pleasure" of learning a new program

probably the worst reasoning i have heard in a long time.

how about:

what people listen to the tune you made and go
"that one has sortable vst folders"

[Jaeson Merrill]

also clutters up the editing process to extremes.

how can something invisible clutter something else visible?

object editing is only there when you want or need it.

Suddenly you have a new and variable set of parameters for every single object.

OH!~ the horror!

This kind of flexibility gets in the way of workflow and speed.

??? contradiction???

all in good faith, but youre wrong on these point, for sure.

[Jaeson Merrill]

also clutters up the editing process to extremes.

how can something invisible clutter something else visible?

object editing is only there when you want or need it.

Suddenly you have a new and variable set of parameters for every single object.

OH!~ the horror!

This kind of flexibility gets in the way of workflow and speed.

??? contradiction???

all in good faith, but youre wrong on these point, for sure.

oops!! already covered, sorry ;D

[ericj23]

christ i find nothing as funny as revisionists - what i mean is people who go back and re-explain past events to make them sound good

how about this comment on object orientated working ?

Never implied it was a better way of working or not

except in early posts

The object concept is great. Much more efficient than track based

or

the object based automation is godsend

so its not a better way of working - but it's great and a godsend and more efficient that track based - but thats not better right - so you work in marketing ?

now all I ever said was i disagreed - everything that can be done with audio can be done almost as quickly in cubase - i then asked if it was €450 better

Good thing my last post stopped you from slagging mode. I only revert to it when forced.

odd - because you see that this comment was where it started

And ericj23 if you can't see the obvious difference between what we are saying about objects then please stick to SX. Samp deserves better

so you reverted to when forced by getting your retaliation in first - are you in politics ?

i'm bored with this - if this was useful to anyone I might carry on but there has been no new info in the posts for roughly 2 pages - and if this was some sort of intellectual excercise but in truth it's not - i spend all my time correcting you - it's like being a secondary school teacher again

so im off ot get a drink - that's what us teachers do

[dx-9]

if you wanna work with plugins use cubase

if you make recording and need exact cutting etc use samplitude