Samplitude 8 or Cubase SX3? Your opinions please...

[Jaeson Merrill]

And ericj23 if you can't see the obvious difference between what we are saying about objects then please stick to SX. Samp deserves better

frankly suck my cock - and you won't get paid bitch- thats just cheap - like you

i understand perfectly samplitudes editing - it is better than cubase - my point has always been that it isnt so much better to justify the cost of changing

ultimately if you want to start a pissing up the wall contest I can start talking midi - it may be improved in samplitude but it still aint anywhere near cubase goodor how about the intgration of external kit or play order tracks - or acid and rex implementation etc

im still sticking to my point - why bother changing ?
if it was free i could see that the stress of learning how a new program might work out
But samplitude has absolutely nothing in it that will make your music so much better - it just gives a slightly different way of getting there so why bother ?

If the guy is really set he can try the demo - i'm sure he already has

PS if you are trying to get a point across I wouldnt quote kylie minogue OK - a fondness for sex dwarfs isnt big or clever - and it is useful to imply the latter during any discourse

wow, insanely stupid and aggressive. did you forget to take your meds today???

6 pages trying to explain one feature whilst you just didnt get it... the problem is, you dont WANT to get it. so why bother? go home, and take your ball AND your bat with ya

[Jaeson Merrill]

christ i find nothing as funny as revisionists - what i mean is people who go back and re-explain past events to make them sound good

how about this comment on object orientated working ?

Never implied it was a better way of working or not

except in early posts

The object concept is great. Much more efficient than track based

or

the object based automation is godsend

so its not a better way of working - but it's great and a godsend and more efficient that track based - but thats not better right - so you work in marketing ?

now all I ever said was i disagreed - everything that can be done with audio can be done almost as quickly in cubase - i then asked if it was €450 better

Good thing my last post stopped you from slagging mode. I only revert to it when forced.

odd - because you see that this comment was where it started

And ericj23 if you can't see the obvious difference between what we are saying about objects then please stick to SX. Samp deserves better

so you reverted to when forced by getting your retaliation in first - are you in politics ?

i'm bored with this - if this was useful to anyone I might carry on but there has been no new info in the posts for roughly 2 pages - and if this was some sort of intellectual excercise but in truth it's not - i spend all my time correcting you - it's like being a secondary school teacher again

so im off ot get a drink - that's what us teachers do

dude. your obsessed. leave. you obviously dont understand. youre acting like you are cubase and "the maestro" is your wife, leaving for another man, mr.samplitude.

get over it.

so much drama...

[ericj23]

as the top 5 of them can all do about the same things, what's the point?

oh so untrue!

Cubase isn't object-orientated for a start...

eh what people listen to the tune you made and go that one was object orientated

but heres a hint - cubase upgrade €150

crossgrade to new program €600

so you want to pay €450 for the "pleasure" of learning a new program

probably the worst reasoning i have heard in a long time.

how about:

what people listen to the tune you made and go
"that one has sortable vst folders"

what is with samplitude users and an inability to argue ?

the point is obvious - there is nothing that anyone has said here in object orientated audio editing that cannot be done almost as quickly in cubase - notice almost

the rest is surely self explnatory

[Z3R0T0N1N]

eric, you really are gross, man. why would you bring crap like that to a music forum?
wow, guys, settle down. it is just software. i have to wonder what freud would say about your obsessive linking of music sequencers and oral sex, eric?

[ericj23]

jason in reply to your most recent one

what don't i understand - please in clear language - not hyperbole - i have used samplitude you know - I do know what object orientated work is

so please explain ?

thats all I have asked all thread

[Jaeson Merrill]

if you wanna work with plugins use cubase

if you make recording and need exact cutting etc use samplitude

thats a bit simplistic, however, i will say that cubase has been known for superior vsti/midi, however, the new version of samplitude 8 will blow your previous standards away

and btw, cubase can do precise cutting and pretty darn good recording...

so again, a bit simplistic, but thanks for the input

[ericj23]

did you read this thread really ? - or are you jsut skimming to the juicy bits

I have used samplitude - version 7 & 8 demoed for a while

I understand the object orientated feature - i just dont understand why others are obssessed about it - it is a time saver - that is all

as for the cock sucking thing - frankly if someone starts slagging people off (and it wasnt me) I have no problem with people giving it back with a lot of interest

I am quite willing to concede that's a childish attitude but I and anyone else is quite entitled to do that

PS I work with people who actually do have to take medication to stay cool - and I am gross and sick

[Jaeson Merrill]

as the top 5 of them can all do about the same things, what's the point?

oh so untrue!

Cubase isn't object-orientated for a start...

eh what people listen to the tune you made and go that one was object orientated

but heres a hint - cubase upgrade €150

crossgrade to new program €600

so you want to pay €450 for the "pleasure" of learning a new program

probably the worst reasoning i have heard in a long time.

how about:

what people listen to the tune you made and go
"that one has sortable vst folders"

what is with samplitude users and an inability to argue ?

the point is obvious - there is nothing that anyone has said here in object orientated audio editing that cannot be done almost as quickly in cubase - notice almost

the rest is surely self explnatory

well, i guess im just a bit too busy making music to refine my arguing skills. how about this:

go have anal sex with goats you cubase user!!!

is that better?

otherwise, you simply cant apply effects or settings to single objects in cubase. period. the so called workaround you had is ridiculous, in samp its instantaneous.

[Jaeson Merrill]

you know what tho?

if that is how you work, your "workflow", then fine.. so be it.

theres nothing wrong with you, or me.

we're all ok :):):)

we just have different ways of doing things.

i remember using Acid 2.0 to do things. well, it didnt work so hot. so i had to change. nothing wrong with that either. sometimes we can find that other programs work better for us than others. doesnt NESSECARILY make one program better than another.. just different for us.

the point of this thread WAS to show how samplitude was in comparison to cubase. not to show whats better, but to give some examples to show its differences, perhaps it will be better for this guys workflow than cubase. big deal.

[Jaeson Merrill]

one thing that i DONT like about samplitude...

which has changed a bit since 7, is that cubase has those neat "folder tracks"

not as nessecary as samp's better freeze (IMO) and object editing, and other stuff, but definetly something i would like to see in samp.. hiding tracks doesnt quite do it for me.. something like FLstudio's zip channels.

[Jaeson Merrill]

ahhh heres another notable workflow difference.

i have cubase SL, so im not sure if its any different in SX, but in samp, you can select different mouse modes and tools and such that combine many useful features in one tool just get the demo and use the different modes, theres really no way i can explain it, just many different ways to do things without 1000 menus.

also, the midi editing..

usage of the left and right click buttons (left to insert a note, right to delete) is certainly better IMO to cubases way of doing things.. unless i have that wrong as far as cubase.

[Z3R0T0N1N]

you know what tho?

if that is how you work, your "workflow", then fine.. so be it.

theres nothing wrong with you, or me.

we're all ok :):):)

we just have different ways of doing things.

i remember using Acid 2.0 to do things. well, it didnt work so hot. so i had to change. nothing wrong with that either. sometimes we can find that other programs work better for us than others. doesnt NESSECARILY make one program better than another.. just different for us.

the point of this thread WAS to show how samplitude was in comparison to cubase. not to show whats better, but to give some examples to show its differences, perhaps it will be better for this guys workflow than cubase. big deal.

now that, friends, is the voice of reason.... which is to say nothing of the merits of using Reason over anything else... er, nevermind.

[ericj23]

you know what tho?

if that is how you work, your "workflow", then fine.. so be it.

theres nothing wrong with you, or me.

we're all ok :):):)

we just have different ways of doing things.

i remember using Acid 2.0 to do things. well, it didnt work so hot. so i had to change. nothing wrong with that either. sometimes we can find that other programs work better for us than others. doesnt NESSECARILY make one program better than another.. just different for us.

the point of this thread WAS to show how samplitude was in comparison to cubase. not to show whats better, but to give some examples to show its differences, perhaps it will be better for this guys workflow than cubase. big deal.

amen

that is essentially all i ever said - but i still completely disagree about your feelings on object orientated editing - right click and apply fx is defintely fast enough for me - especially applying fx chains but anyway

also the point of the post was not to compare features at all - it was to see whether he should upgrade the sx

I know (and love might I add)

or buy samplitude

i think we all said try the demo a long time ago - he even said he had a few pages ago - so why am i replying

need more super substances

[Mr. Slater's Parrot]

So (requesting again, kindly) does anyone know if Samplitude 8 has midi ghost/linked clips? That's the one feature I find essential for my needs and it wasn't in Samplitude 7 as far as I know. Thanks.

[popsych]

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as for the cock sucking thing - frankly if someone starts slagging people off (and it wasnt me) I have no problem with people giving it back with a lot of interest
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What i said was :

And ericj23 if you can't see the obvious difference between what we are saying about objects then please stick to SX. Samp deserves better

I meant that if u don't see the benefit to Samp then using it is a disservice to both you and the host. You turned it into a fight.

amen

that is essentially all i ever said - but i still completely disagree about your feelings on object orientated editing - right click and apply fx is defintely fast enough for me - especially applying fx chains but anyway

also the point of the post was not to compare features at all - it was to see whether he should upgrade the sx

I know (and love might I add)

or buy samplitude

i think we all said try the demo a long time ago - he even said he had a few pages ago - so why am i replying

need more super substances

And if you still don't agree then fine : U like Cubase, i like Samp : f**k us - this is to help maestro. Personally i quoted the features that might be deciscive factors when choosing.

christ i find nothing as funny as revisionists - what i mean is people who go back and re-explain past events to make them sound good
how about this comment on object orientated working ?

Never implied it was a better way of working or not

except in early posts

The object concept is great. Much more efficient than track based

or

the object based automation is godsend

so its not a better way of working - but it's great and a godsend and more efficient that track based - but thats not better right - so you work in marketing ?

And ericj23 if you can't see the obvious difference between what we are saying about objects then please stick to SX. Samp deserves better

so you reverted to when forced by getting your retaliation in first - are you in politics ?

To end this : Would it have been better if i had put an IMHO in front of them ? Fine IMHO "The object concept is great. Much more efficient than track based" (btw it continues: "for most tasks")

And yes I am in politics.