yrg thread

[annode]

Here he is..just googled him...the plagiarist. haha
http://www.facebook.com/people/Mohammed ... 1633690487

[lxm]

hey guys just curios. how does the casio dg-20 trigger sounds? anyone use one of those with vst's?

Like crap.
The strings are very loose and no matter how I try I can't get them tight enough for a solid rhythum. It also lacks velocity sensitivity.

haha. ok. that solves that

[JAMES L. HARRISON]

I just meant that you're certainly not the only one with the problem. HOWEVER: I've just spent quite a while trying to duplicate your results with the internal guitar sounds and on most of them I cannot. I _do_ sometimes get a _very light_ [but easily controlled] hammer-on effect; but not on most of the voices. There are a few [around #21, 22] that give the pronounced hammer-on effect, but most don't.

Now, if you heard me trying to play guitar you'd laugh or cry; depending upon your mood and attitude toward something pathetic, so I'm certainly no expert.

I _can_ get the results you do; but I have to turn on "slide". I'm sure you said you had that turned off.

Regards,
James
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I just noticed this on the YRG Facebook page. Sound familiar?

James
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Quote:
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Mohammed Al-Khulaiwe
I just noticed something as i'm playing...
I don't know how to turn off the hammer-on feature.
If i'm picking each note along a string, it gets sounded twice...once when my finger hits the fretted note, and again when I pick that note.
It has a sound like gating...not good.
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End of quote.

James
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Just for the record;
I made a few changes that helped to a degree to alleviate some of the string switch bounce and the hammer-ons.

- removed the strings sensor cover,(where the neck PU would be on a guitar).
- adhered a strip of soft foam about 1/4" thick onto the inside cover of that cover plate, and re-attached. It helped to deaden string vibration which causes false-triggers.

-When the YRG is placed into mono-mode by holding the midi-button down and incrementing the counter up to #17, strings 1-6 each output their respective midi channels 1-6.
- In mono mode, a hammer-on/pull-off, will only send a velocity 1 out until the string is re-struck. On VSTi which employ a legato setting,a hammer-on/PO will only trigger the sustain element of the VSTi's note and not re-trigger the note from it's envelope's attack. This helps so you hear the synth's attack only when you pick the string and not when you finger another fret on that string while holding the struck note at the same time.

It's just a temp thing as far as i'm concerned because you can't play chords if you wanted to, it's only single notes for leads/soloing/scales.

It's not clear what you mean exactly when you ask "Sound familiar?" James.
I'm not that guy on facebook if that's your point. His words are eerily close to the words I have used to describe it. He's for sure using my words. But it's not me. How ever it gets said...spread the word.
Do all the YRG do exacly what He and I say they do?...Yes they do.

EDIT: read it again, I see that's an exact quote from a post I made here! Jeez, talk about plagiarism. haha

[annode]

Hi James. I wasn't sure what it was that "Sounds familiar?" meant.
Now I know. Thanks.

You say;

I just meant that you're certainly not the only one with the problem. HOWEVER: I've just spent quite a while trying to duplicate your results with the internal guitar sounds and on most of them I cannot. I _do_ sometimes get a _very light_ [but easily controlled] hammer-on effect; but not on most of the voices. There are a few [around #21, 22] that give the pronounced hammer-on effect, but most don't.

Now, if you heard me trying to play guitar you'd laugh or cry; depending upon your mood and attitude toward something pathetic, so I'm certainly no expert.

I _can_ get the results you do; but I have to turn on "slide". I'm sure you said you had that turned off.

Regards,
James

I haven't opened the YRG to look inside just yet...warranty 'ya know.
I suspect there's a board inside there with a company name and number. With that info I could ID the board and see exactly what the full parameter sets are.
The internal sounds, it's clear have user controlled parameters like we see in the "presets" area on the Control Panel application.
But as for the global midi out, all we see so far is string sens/cross talk filter(not implemented yet) and the global amp out volume.

The presets clearly have parameters that effect the envelope of the individual internal sounds. For example: hammer velocity and pluck decay.
So far, it appears that the midi-out hammer velocity and pluck decay are following a a new firmware preset. ( I posted those decrementing velocities earlier, based on a series of hammer-ons and pull-offs. You can see how it decays in the newer firmware only obtainable from the newer updater app. , which has not been released yet.)

Hopefully Inspired will create a way to change global midi-out settings in a new updated Control Panel that will allow the users to adjust hammer velocity as well as pluck decay globally.
For example, if I set hammer velocity to zero, that would eliminate hammer-ons and pull-offs when not in tap mode i'm assuming. I was told these user control variables are up for consideration, but will we see it, nobody knows at this time. Unfortunately the new firmware doesn't take care of this.

I _can_ get the results you do; but I have to turn on "slide". I'm sure you said you had that turned off.

All my comments on this concern midi-out to VSTi or HW synth.

When slide is on, in the original firmware...haven't checked the new version, a hammer-on will send "pitch-up"data out. Don't know how that works with the synth or even why it's there, but that's what increases the pitch when you hammer-on in "slide" mode.
The original firmware also used pitch messages for hammer-ons when in mono-mode, but this has been changed now to note messages.

[tapper mike]

The warranty is voided as soon as you take the unit out if it's plastic.

What's funny is after I removed the plate and noticed the uneven transducers, montkeyed with then and the shims abit it played better then it ever had previously (not great just better). Once I put the plate back on it went back to crappy self. So the plate is staying off I'm not going to get my money back out of it.

Also I've been playing it and it alone non-stop since I got the YRG. I put it down (for the next week) and picked up my ztar. The ztar outclasses it in performance value hands down. It's easy grip pressure senditive keys coax more muance then strings could ever do.

[Maruuk]

Always good to keep in touch with our options...

From Plastic axe

Rock Band 3: The Peripherals
Jun 11th, 2010 at 12:02am
by Joe Rybicki.

Rock Band 3

In the course of my interview with Rock Band 3 project lead Daniel Sussman, he dropped news about all the new controllers and peripherals — some which we already knew about, and some that we did not. (And there's even more we didn't know about the game.) Here's the full lineup, courtesy of MTV Games' partnership with Fender, and their new partnership with Mad Catz.

Rock Band 3 Squier By Fender Stratocaster Guitar Controller
price TBA



Yeah, that's a mouthful. I suspect we'll just be calling it "the Squier." But I figured I'd include the full title just this once. This is the one peripheral we know of being made by Fender; the rest come via Mad Catz. Anyway, details:

* Fully functional, full-sized, stringed, electric guitar
* Technology built into the neck and fingerboard tracks finger positions
* Transmits strum data for each of the six strings
* MIDI output

Rock Band 3 Wireless Fender Mustang PRO-Guitar Controller
$149.99

Rock Band 3 Mustang Controller

* 17 frets, 6 buttons per neck
* 6-string strumming area allows for discrete picking of each string
* Touch-sensitive string box allows players to mute or cut off notes
* MIDI output

[tapper mike]

wasn't the dirt on that ..... the squore would not have midi output?
Didn't we cover that a few pages back or am I mistaken?

[tapper mike]

also from what I can see.... you won't be able to send bend/vibrato anywhere.

[lxm]

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/yo ... ssage/1103

new control app

[Elantric]

Here's the pics of the factory installed string dampers on my You Rock Guitar - (Serial number 0000041)

The String Transducers with twin vertical Rubber dampers per string under the "Neck Plate"



With Neck Plate removed





and
The Rubber damper strips at the bridge:




And here's a screen shot of all my YRG Control Panel Ver 0.001 settings that are currently working well for me. No Double triggers.

[JAMES L. HARRISON]

I installed the new software and the pc asked to reboot and I allowed it. Now my YRG just flashes the music light, at first rapidly and later much more slowly. It appears I've bricked it. What am I supposed to do now?

Thanks,
James

PS: My ISP is having problems and right now I cannot send email, although I can surf or access sites like this...
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http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/yo ... ssage/1103

new control app

[tapper mike]

Try the other buttons.
You are prolly fine.

If still nothing.
Find an ink pen.
Keep the usb plugged into it.
Turn off the power.
Remove the battery cover.
Put the pen in the pinhole. Keep it pressed in.
Turn on the power.

[Maruuk]

String sensitivity on 1??? What'dya use for a pick, a jackhammer?

While one or two articles say the Squire Strat has midi out, the vast majority do not, including Fender's own press releases. It has been a matter of some dispute and mystery, but the more we see articles mentioning midi, the more certainty there might be.

Who cares? Unlike the button Mustang, this one is actually being built by Fender. They have big bucks for R&D, QC, proper coding--they can buy materials cheaper than anybody else and have the leverage to make great assembly deals. They can get more bang for the buck than most, which may lead to a superior product for us.

Plus it's a regular guitar neck, which might lead to a more fluid and nuanced performance capability than this plastic toy we got here.

I guarantee it will be more ready for primetime at launch.

[JAMES L. HARRISON]

I tried to post a reply but don't see it. I did the software update. It showed completed and gave a reboot suggestion which I accepted. Now I apparently have bricked my YRG, as I can't get anything out of it except a blinking "music" lite.

And my ISP has problems so that I cannot at the moment send email; although I can surf and access sites such as this.

Suggestions?

Thanks,
James
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http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/yo ... ssage/1103

new control app

[Maruuk]

Thanks for the warning. If RESET doesn't work, you may be up spit creek.

YRG: You're Really Gyped.