KVR Audio

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:36 pm

one very important point about the announced specs is wrong:

it's a maximum of four submix-busses, not just two of them

b.t.w.: it also comes with their excellent dynamic-plugin and channel-eq...

Besides eXT Samplitude SE is for sure the best deal out there currently!

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:39 pm

Sascha Franck wrote: I just thought about projects where I may have used more than 8 VSTis and 48 audio channels. There's not much of them to be sure.

even for synth-demos I rarely need more than eight vsti - and if that was the rare case I could still (save the .fxp and) render...

_niko_ · Post by **_niko_** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:41 pm

I haven't installed mine yet, have the big one anyway, but there definately was quite a bit of moaning on the samplitude forums, when this was announced. Like, I paid 1000 bucks for it and now they are giving it away for free

Of course there are still quite a fewselling points for the bigger versions, but I think it was a smart and necessary move from Magix to release an entry level version of Samp. For almost free (I am saying almost because the Keys mag costs 5 EUR and is usually not worth it) it surely is hard to beat.

P.S. I doubt VERY much that this is a multi language version. Even Samp Pro doesn't come with a multi language setup.

christianmusicmaker · Post by **christianmusicmaker** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:52 pm

I remember reading some comments on the Samplitude 8 forum about Audio cleaning Lab's Spectral cleaning feature possibly appearing in Samplitude 8 at some point as some asked why it was not included in Samp 8 first...

I had no idea what the complaint was about but after looking at that feature in more detail I can see why those comments were made.

Magix tend to give a generous helping of FX to their lesser products.

IMHO Samplitudes FX tend to be top draw as well. Even though SE does not have them all it does ship with a nice clutch of plugs...

High-quality effects: Normalize, 4-band parametric EQ, Stereo Enhancer, Amp Simulation, Vocoder, Dehisser, Timestretching/Pitchshifting, Panorama, Dynamics (Compressor, Expander, Noise Gate, Limiter), Reverb, Delay, Resampling, Declipping, Distortion, Noise Reduction, Phase Invert.

Not bad.

dgkenney · Post by **dgkenney** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:01 pm

christianmusicmaker wrote:I remember reading some comments on the Samplitude 8 forum about Audio cleaning Lab's Spectral cleaning feature possibly appearing in Samplitude 8 at some point as some asked why it was not included in Samp 8 first... I had no idea what the complaint was about but after looking at that feature in more detail I can see why those comments were made.

Magix tend to give a generous helping of FX to their lesser products.

IMHO Samplitudes FX tend to be top draw as well. Even though SE does not have them all it does ship with a nice clutch of plugs...

High-quality effects: Normalize, 4-band parametric EQ, Stereo Enhancer, Amp Simulation, Vocoder, Dehisser, Timestretching/Pitchshifting, Panorama, Dynamics (Compressor, Expander, Noise Gate, Limiter), Reverb, Delay, Resampling, Declipping, Distortion, Noise Reduction, Phase Invert.

Not bad.

I haven't used Samplitude since version 5.somethingorother but IIRC their Dynamics and especially the denoiser were pretty good. Cetainly worth the price of a magazine and maybe even the $49.

Dan

rokkon · Post by **rokkon** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:01 pm

just played a bit with it, I'm a bit undecided on it yet. it's nice for the money, no question.. Just two vst inserts is a bit limiting, but at least every bus has already delay and a 4-way parametric eq build-in plus two of the build-in effects.

The midi functionality doesn't exactly make me fall off my chair (although the piano roll is nice), and with all the limits I'd rather recommend ext or even (gasp) tracktion as vsti-sequencer to budget people.

As an audio-only daw it's inferior to music studio.

Also if I understood the registration email correctly, you can only make 3 changes to your hardware until you have to buy it again(?)

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:21 pm

I already have Tracktion, Live... I don't really need Samplitude, but the fact that there is also an audio-editor makes me wxant to have a look at it.
Is the audio editor ok with vst ? Does it have a vst chainer ?

Klemperer · Post by **Klemperer** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:29 pm

got my issue too. What a great thing to try out. Now I should connect my music-PC to the internet (registration works only that way, as I read in KEYS, not like with NI- or Soundforge- stuff). Maybe it would work with an old laptop too, will read the system requirements...what I read (in the mag and here) sounds really great.

Hi Jens, this weekend I'll find the time to listen to your surely wonderful tracks (about time, too

)

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:37 pm

rokkon wrote: Just two vst inserts is a bit limiting, but at least every bus has already delay and a 4-way parametric eq build-in plus two of the build-in effects.

it's a maximum of:

- two built-in fx inserts

- + two dx/vst.-inserts

- + the channel-eq

- + the channel delay/reverb

- + two object-inserts

- + four sends

That means each object can be routed through a maximum of 12 effects at the same time - that should be plenty of enough, shouldn't it?

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:38 pm

Klemperer wrote: Hi Jens, this weekend I'll find the time to listen to your surely wonderful tracks (about time, too )

Cheers Georg!

Antonis · Post by **Antonis** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:47 pm

Is the language really in German ONLY?

please say no...

rokkon · Post by **rokkon** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:56 pm

jens wrote:
rokkon wrote: Just two vst inserts is a bit limiting, but at least every bus has already delay and a 4-way parametric eq build-in plus two of the build-in effects.
it's a maximum of:

- two built-in fx inserts

- + two dx/vst.-inserts

- + the channel-eq

- + the channel delay/reverb

- + two object-inserts

- + four sends

That means each object can be routed through a maximum of 12 effects at the same time - that should be plenty of enough, shouldn't it?

ahh I didn't know about the additional object inserts so far. cool.
If it's enough or not depends on the kind of music I guess. I often use more than 4 inserts on many tracks to create silly soundscapes and stuff.

rokkon · Post by **rokkon** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:02 pm

sinkmusic wrote:Is the audio editor ok with vst ? Does it have a vst chainer ?

if you use it just as an audio editor you can put 2 vst/dx efects on the master. plus eq, dynamics, dehisser, ampsim, distortion and vocoder.

In order to render you have to activitate disk-write, give it a filename and play through the whole wav. that would piss me off with longer material.

christianmusicmaker · Post by **christianmusicmaker** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:05 pm

jens wrote:
rokkon wrote: Just two vst inserts is a bit limiting, but at least every bus has already delay and a 4-way parametric eq build-in plus two of the build-in effects.
it's a maximum of:

- two built-in fx inserts

- + two dx/vst.-inserts

- + the channel-eq

- + the channel delay/reverb

- + two object-inserts

- + four sends

That means each object can be routed through a maximum of 12 effects at the same time - that should be plenty of enough, shouldn't it?

Nice breakdown Jens. It's even much better than I thought then.

_niko_ · Post by **_niko_** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:06 pm

rokkon wrote:
sinkmusic wrote:Is the audio editor ok with vst ? Does it have a vst chainer ?
...

In order to render you have to activitate disk-write, give it a filename and play through the whole wav. that would piss me off with longer material.

That's not true, if you export as wave the fx in the master section will be applied unless you disable them prior to the export.

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