All good things come to those who wait.. the Synth Squad 2 thread
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- KVRAF
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- 4735 posts since 18 Jul, 2002 from London, UK
Not yet, sorry. Strobe2 is first out of the gate. You can expect broadly similar things - Cypher has more changes in terms of layout as it was the least satisfactory of the three on that front; Amber has greater feature changes as the CPU savings give us scope to do more there, include some things that got missed out first time around etc.
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- KVRAF
- 20707 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Excellent! I've been looking for a synth to bridge the gap between the super synths like DIVA and LuSH-101 and manageable CPU usage, it's nice that it'll come in the form of a synth I already know and love. Bravo to you and the team for focusing on usability rather than flashy features.Angus_FX wrote:Just to give you an idea of the CPU efficiency gains - 32 voices @ 8x oversampling can run on as little as 30% of one core on an i5-2500, though it's more than that once you add supersaw and effects.
Very nice!Just load up Strobe. It has a couple of reverb algorithms and a couple of delays, as well as most of DCAM Dynamics, an upgraded version of the Amber chorus unit, a few EQs. Six effects slots all with full 16-slot TransMod (although not polyphonic on the effects yet, sorry!)
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- KVRAF
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- 4735 posts since 18 Jul, 2002 from London, UK
It's manageable CPU usage (especially on newer gen cores - we've put a lot of work in to squeezing every drop out of those AVX vector units) AND very high sound quality. As an aside - would you say LuSH and DIVA are the ones to beat? DIVA's a work of genius, but I personally find LuSH a bit underwhelming in terms of sound quality vs amount of CPU used.
On the same subject - LuSH's 8-way layering - yay or nay?
On the same subject - LuSH's 8-way layering - yay or nay?
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- KVRist
- 215 posts since 11 Oct, 2012
With this layering Sebastian from D16 managed to create a lot of amazing patches. On the top of the great filters Lush has those very good effects, a great combo.
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- KVRAF
- 5666 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
'yay' from me.Angus_FX wrote: On the same subject - LuSH's 8-way layering - yay or nay?
This is not just good for the obvious layering tricks, but also for emulating the Oberheim 8 Voice synth - perhaps not emulating the actual sound but the way each voice behaves. Each 'voice' could be subtly different creating a gorgeous, 'organic'* sound. I've already experimented with this technique in the LuSH demo and it works really well.
* the word 'organic' could be regarded as often overused but it's really apt when it comes to the way the OB 8-voice can be set up.
- KVRAF
- 3361 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from People's Republic of Minnesota
I'm super excited to see what the changes for Amber will be. Can't wait. Would love to see a rudimentary sequencer on strobe, kind of like on tal bassline-101 with step input. I know it sounds like a minor feature but it's quite useful for idea generation when it's built into the synth...at least for me.Angus_FX wrote:Not yet, sorry. Strobe2 is first out of the gate. You can expect broadly similar things - Cypher has more changes in terms of layout as it was the least satisfactory of the three on that front; Amber has greater feature changes as the CPU savings give us scope to do more there, include some things that got missed out first time around etc.
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- KVRAF
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- 4735 posts since 18 Jul, 2002 from London, UK
@himalaya Is that the same thing you can do with Diva's Trimmers, or something more sophisticated?
@masterhiggings step-record like on the original 101?
@masterhiggings step-record like on the original 101?
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- KVRian
- 1166 posts since 24 Jul, 2008 from England
Angus; Fusor FX, yay or nay?
I always wanted to try it on external synths, even if it would be fairly limited in comparison to Fusor.
I always wanted to try it on external synths, even if it would be fairly limited in comparison to Fusor.
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- KVRAF
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- 4735 posts since 18 Jul, 2002 from London, UK
@audiosabre what did you want to try? Just the effect engines themselves or..? Seems to me they'd be way more fun driven from a Sugar Bytes-y effect sequencer thingumabob than merely bolting an audio input on to Fusor.
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- KVRAF
- 3959 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).
I'd say this release will be epic... Strobe is already a monster!
Anything for Geist in the works?
Anything for Geist in the works?
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- KVRAF
- 5666 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
It's different, much more elaborate. However, now that I'm thinking about it some more, Synth Squad can already do what the OB does. I suppose, LuSH is still different compared to the way OB behaves since with LuSH I can play 8 polyphonic synths, rather than 8 voices that vary on each key press. I've set up this patch in Lush which used 4 pads, each one slightly different and the result was really nice. Obviously this can be achieved with synth layering in a DAW, but doing this in the actual instrument has its benefits.
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- KVRAF
- 5666 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
and then some!Robmobius wrote:Strobe is already a monster!
But I like it a lot when it's doing simple duties like...emulating the Roland SH-101
strobe vs hardware Sh-101:
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... y_saw1.wav
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Growl.wav
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Nasal.wav
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... bounce.wav
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Synth.wav
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- KVRAF
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- 4735 posts since 18 Jul, 2002 from London, UK
@Robmobius Geist - certainly! Can't say more than that yet.
@himalaya Synth Squad won't do exactly what the OB (or Trimmers) do - it has per-voice parameter variation (well, actually quite a few different mod sources which do that), but you can only control the overall depth, not the individual values for each voice. DIVA's Trimmers let you tweak each voice by hand, so you can have 7 out of 8 voices in tune and one.. not so much, etc.
@himalaya Synth Squad won't do exactly what the OB (or Trimmers) do - it has per-voice parameter variation (well, actually quite a few different mod sources which do that), but you can only control the overall depth, not the individual values for each voice. DIVA's Trimmers let you tweak each voice by hand, so you can have 7 out of 8 voices in tune and one.. not so much, etc.
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- KVRist
- 139 posts since 20 May, 2006 from canada
Yay, definitely. Love LuSH, for it's ease of use, sound (which I like, a lot), power.Angus_FX wrote: ....I personally find LuSH a bit underwhelming in terms of sound quality vs amount of CPU used.
On the same subject - LuSH's 8-way layering - yay or nay?
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