Synthmaster for $10

[.jon]

150 is not unreasonable price for a solid, unique instrument that will last for years and years and which can be expected to be updated for future operation systems and VST standards. Not many such VSTis have been released so far.

[wagtunes]

I can't add any. I can't add any LFOs. I can't add anything. You want to call it semi modular?

I call it modular.

The definition of a modular synthesizer is "a synthesizer that consists of independent modules which have a free signal routing". The definition of a semi-modular synthesizer is "a synthesizer that consists of independent modules which have a preset signal routing that can be altered to some degree".

A definition that includes "seemingly unlimited number of modules" has never existed, it's just a feature that some software synthesizers offer. Otherwise Moog would have offered their System 55 as "preset component for modular synthesizers" rather than "modular synthesizer". Sure, one could patch from one Moog Modular to another, one could even swap some modules. But that was not the gist of it being modular, it was just another feature.

The distinction between modular and semi modular was made specifically to describe the difference of pre-wired modular synthesizers such as Arp 2600 and modulars like the Moog ones which were not pre-wired.

Urs, I get what you're saying and I'm not even arguing it from a technical standpoint. But for me, when I think of getting a "modular" synth, I want to be able to go to 40 different online stores and buy 200 different "modules" and stick them together any way I like. That to me is the ultimate modular software synth and we simply don't have that yet.

Don't get me wrong. I love Zebra 2. I love Bazille. But both those synths, as far as being modular or semi modular goes, have limitations as to what I can do with them. I get that this doesn't make them not modular or not semi modular. But they are simply not totally open ended.

That's the software synth I'm waiting for because I can't afford hardware nor do I have the room for a humongous Euro Crack system.

You design something like that and I'll be the first person in line to buy it.

[Michael L]

I would never have spent $80 on Synthmaster because she's not my type. But $10 is a cheap date, so I said OK. And I found things that I really enjoy, like her cool modularity....

[.jon]

Urs, I get what you're saying and I'm not even arguing it from a technical standpoint. But for me, when I think of getting a "modular" synth, I want to be able to go to 40 different online stores and buy 200 different "modules" and stick them together any way I like. That to me is the ultimate modular software synth and we simply don't have that yet.

I'm very happy with Blocks and the fact that there's hundreds and hundreds of free modules downloadable from a single location. Blocks lack the immediacy of virtual patch cables on the panels, but on the other hand the Reaktor environment allows infinitely more powerful patching.

Don't get me wrong. I love Zebra 2. I love Bazille. But both those synths, as far as being modular or semi modular goes, have limitations as to what I can do with them. I get that this doesn't make them not modular or not semi modular. But they are simply not totally open ended.

Well Bazille isn't really a modular synth by any stretch of the word. It's a patchable synth, a semi-modular.

[godly]

no download yet, did somebody have success?

[wagtunes]

Urs, I get what you're saying and I'm not even arguing it from a technical standpoint. But for me, when I think of getting a "modular" synth, I want to be able to go to 40 different online stores and buy 200 different "modules" and stick them together any way I like. That to me is the ultimate modular software synth and we simply don't have that yet.

I'm very happy with Blocks and the fact that there's hundreds and hundreds of free modules downloadable from a single location. Blocks lack the immediacy of virtual patch cables on the panels, but on the other hand the Reaktor environment allows infinitely more powerful patching.

Don't get me wrong. I love Zebra 2. I love Bazille. But both those synths, as far as being modular or semi modular goes, have limitations as to what I can do with them. I get that this doesn't make them not modular or not semi modular. But they are simply not totally open ended.

Well Bazille isn't really a modular synth by any stretch of the word. It's a patchable synth, a semi-modular.

I'm aware that Bazille is not a modular synth.

As far as Reaktor goes, what has really turned me off on blocks has nothing to do with blocks. It's Reaktor in general. Reaktor 5 is a royal headache to try to do anything with. You literally need an engineering degree to put things together and I just don't have the patience for that level of programming. Softube is more my speed.

So when blocks came out, my contempt for Reaktor in general was just too much for me to even bother looking at blocks more than just downloading the player, toying with it for about 5 minutes and then deleting it from my drive. Don't even remember why I didn't like it. Don't care.

I use Reaktor as a preset machine. I pull up whatever ensemble I need and then program my patch how I want it, like I do with a traditional synth. That's my speed. Not Xor's or whatever. I have zero patience for that crap.

[hivkorn]

You literally need an engineering degree to put things together and I just don't have the patience for that level of programming. Softube is more my speed

+1 softube is less hard to understand than reaktor ...Reaktor could be huge , but it need to have a graphic connection like softube have.

[GaryG]

no download yet, did somebody have success?

loads of people.

[hivkorn]

no download yet, did somebody have success?

loads of people.

i think we have to wait again ...i think this sale was a rush and GC need time to deliver serial...

[GaryG]

You literally need an engineering degree to put things together and I just don't have the patience for that level of programming. Softube is more my speed

+1 softube is less hard to understand than reaktor ...Reaktor could be huge , but it need to have a graphic connection like softube have.

I'm not so sure, I like the separation of the panel and the connectors. Once it's all plugged up then nothing to distract you. Wiring just an F10 away.

And you don't 'literally' need an engineering degree; the core side of things gets pretty DSPey but you can do so much just with primary modules etc, no harder than any modular (stick a modular in front of any pleb in the street and you'll get similar "engineering" comments )

[wagtunes]

You literally need an engineering degree to put things together and I just don't have the patience for that level of programming. Softube is more my speed

+1 softube is less hard to understand than reaktor ...Reaktor could be huge , but it need to have a graphic connection like softube have.

I'm not so sure, I like the separation of the panel and the connectors. Once it's all plugged up then nothing to distract you. Wiring just an F10 away.

And you don't 'literally' need an engineering degree; the core side of things gets pretty DSPey but you can do so much just with primary modules etc, no harder than any modular (stick a modular in front of any pleb in the street and you'll get similar "engineering" comments )

Maybe Reaktor 6 with blocks is easier to patch together, ala Softube, but like I said, I was so turned off by Reaktor 5 that I'm unlikely to upgrade to 6.

Oh, and I just did open the demo mode of 6. The few ensembles they give you, most are auto run sequencers. The couple that aren't sound good but nothing that blew me away enough to shell out the $99 upgrade cost for.

Somebody blow me away with Reaktor 6 and I'm likely to change my mind.

So far, nobody's come close.

[cyberheater]

no download yet, did somebody have success?

Nope. Nothing yet and they have taken payment from PayPal. I'm not happy.

no download yet, did somebody have success?

loads of people.

Anyone not in the US?

[hivkorn]

You literally need an engineering degree to put things together and I just don't have the patience for that level of programming. Softube is more my speed

+1 softube is less hard to understand than reaktor ...Reaktor could be huge , but it need to have a graphic connection like softube have.

I'm not so sure, I like the separation of the panel and the connectors. Once it's all plugged up then nothing to distract you. Wiring just an F10 away.

And you don't 'literally' need an engineering degree; the core side of things gets pretty DSPey but you can do so much just with primary modules etc, no harder than any modular (stick a modular in front of any pleb in the street and you'll get similar "engineering" comments )

yep don't need engineering degree , but the workflow destroy the creativity during a session...

[wickfut]

Nope. Nothing yet and they have taken payment from PayPal. I'm not happy.

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[hivkorn]

no download yet, did somebody have success?

Nope. Nothing yet and they have taken payment from PayPal. I'm not happy.

no download yet, did somebody have success?

loads of people.

Anyone not in the US?

don't worry i am sure GC are not scamming us just wait . I had a message from the support yesterday , it tell me that they were waiting for news licenses...