What about MSEG modulator in Bitwig ?
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- KVRist
- 472 posts since 21 Feb, 2012
There is also UVI's Shade own MSEG this looks ideal & similar to AL M4L's MSEG.
TBH the polynom Modulator is strange BW claims that we could shape any LFO
or envelope further with this tool. but this is confusing method. they should afford some thing
like easy & clear like M4L's MSEG instead of curve going up & down.
The 4-stage ENV having limitation also only 5 points with limited curve settings & no ms measures
no speed control. think of "X-fer LFO Tool" & how it has useful features (Swing, Rate, Phase, PWL
,Smooth, Note Trig, Note Gate etc..)
BWS now has many Modulators & Grid modules but I don't now why until now there isn't
any MSEG module? instead of polynom?
BTW the in the grid there are a category for "Shaper" those tools could be used not just for audio wave shaping but also as envelope shapes but are so limited same as polynom.
TBH the polynom Modulator is strange BW claims that we could shape any LFO
or envelope further with this tool. but this is confusing method. they should afford some thing
like easy & clear like M4L's MSEG instead of curve going up & down.
The 4-stage ENV having limitation also only 5 points with limited curve settings & no ms measures
no speed control. think of "X-fer LFO Tool" & how it has useful features (Swing, Rate, Phase, PWL
,Smooth, Note Trig, Note Gate etc..)
BWS now has many Modulators & Grid modules but I don't now why until now there isn't
any MSEG module? instead of polynom?
BTW the in the grid there are a category for "Shaper" those tools could be used not just for audio wave shaping but also as envelope shapes but are so limited same as polynom.
Last edited by horizon7 on Mon May 24, 2021 3:16 am, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRAF
- 5144 posts since 3 Oct, 2013
mp324 has 4 aux outs which ones can be used as input on its own audio modulators
don't know better at this moment
don't know better at this moment
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
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- KVRist
- 393 posts since 12 Apr, 2020
mseg mseg mseg
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- KVRist
- 485 posts since 1 Mar, 2010
I find it slightly concerning that this thread was created in 2017 and yet still no MSEG or even an acknowledgement from the Bitwig team.
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- KVRian
- 758 posts since 29 Jun, 2009
Maybe with the coming a Grid MIDI-Out there are functions that require a more deep consideration of a MSEG implementation so that we don’t get another EQ version 2 and get it right the first time out.
Reason - Reaktor
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- KVRAF
- 5144 posts since 3 Oct, 2013
what was the latest workaround, I've simply added a CC signal to the MIDI stream
with triggered 4-stage ... blocked the triggering note so the original stream + newly created CC goes through the outer Chain container ... [thinking] there is not many advantages but exists
with triggered 4-stage ... blocked the triggering note so the original stream + newly created CC goes through the outer Chain container ... [thinking] there is not many advantages but exists
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ihearanewworld ihearanewworld https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=441818
- KVRist
- 88 posts since 29 May, 2019
Haha there are 8 pages about wanting an MSEG.
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- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Yeah, the mseg is loud & clear.
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- KVRist
- 213 posts since 2 Oct, 2014
I do feel it is important getting the MSEG across.
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- KVRist
- 154 posts since 5 Jan, 2016
They should build a hugeee MSEG…
Han
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- KVRian
- 1353 posts since 31 Mar, 2014
Only if I can
- copy/paste automation data from/to the arranger
- have an option to convert an automation time selection into an MSEG modulator (which then is automatically added to the correct device and mapped to the correct parameter)
- drag'n'drop MSEG curves between different MSEGs
- Saving MSEG curves as .bwenvelope files and load them using the Bitwig popup browser
- modulatable "MSEG morphing" (for morphing the MSEG node positions and curve shapes using the Bitwig modulation system)
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- KVRist
- 120 posts since 28 Jan, 2021
+1u-u-u wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:53 pm Only if I canOtherwise it wouldn't be the Bitwig-style deep integration.
- copy/paste automation data from/to the arranger
- have an option to convert an automation time selection into an MSEG modulator (which then is automatically added to the correct device and mapped to the correct parameter)
- drag'n'drop MSEG curves between different MSEGs
- Saving MSEG curves as .bwenvelope files and load them using the Bitwig popup browser
- modulatable "MSEG morphing" (for morphing the MSEG node positions and curve shapes using the Bitwig modulation system)
re: MSEG morphing Would be nice if they took inspiration from https://www.kvraudio.com/product/obvious-filter-by-fkfx
This plugin defines the golden standard for an MSEG editor imo
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- KVRAF
- 5144 posts since 3 Oct, 2013
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
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ollie.rollover ollie.rollover https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=475962
- KVRist
- 59 posts since 9 Oct, 2020
Looks good xbitz, I thought it was available in Clap format because of the plug-in header, but alas! 
