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Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:14 pm

I’m not sure what the OP is going for here, but I’m all about interesting sounds. I don’t care how they’re made. Actually I care to understand how, but that’s not where my enjoyment comes from. I’ll buy music (on CD even!!) if I like it. It doesn’t have to be all about synthesis.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:15 pm

Unaspected wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:49 am
telecode wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:08 pm
vurt wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:29 pm why does your fandom of nin have any bearing on them being an example of synth music?
"Vorzel....".. don't go there dude. Just let it slide.

Incidentally, Trent Reznor is a highly intelligent artist that still makes amazing music both under the banner of NIN as well as sountracks. You all need to check out the soundtrack to Gone Girl -- especially what they did for the death scene where Rosamund Pike kills the Neil Patrick Harris character. Once of the most innovative uses of modular synth combined with visual ever created IMNSHO!
Also, "How To Destroy Angels". Well worth checking out.

Fully agreed. Also: Jesus Christ, spoilers, dude!!!!

telecode · Post by **telecode** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:15 pm

vurt wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:05 pm
im sorry hink, but the post above yours is a sly dig at ne, again, not sure why, all ive done here is suggest synth music and i did eye roll at him for a previous "stop the flaming" as he was the one adding the off topic attacks.

now accusing me of contacting jan, like he has the cerebral fortitude for me to need back up.

i have no desire to argue with him, it would be time better served arguing with jelly, id get better brain excercise, but if he keeps with the snideness, i will have to bring out the potato of doom.

You know, pretty soon, i am gonna have to go over there and kidnap and tie you up and take you to stonehenge and get some Welsh warlocks to force you to carry those stones back to Wales before they separate from UK.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:19 pm

jancivil wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:42 am
BONES wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:24 amNone of this impresses me in the slightest. Until I got Analog Lab a couple of years ago, I had never heard of Buchla, either the man or the company. It/he are little more than a footnote in synth history, which doesn't interest me anyway. I like to look forward, not back.
So fatuous, such a lack of normative awareness.

You aren’t moving music forward in a vacuum, in reality you are standing on all kind of people’s back and repeating history. NB: This ’you’ works as the universal you, anyone saying this kind of nonsense. You in the particular just show a kind of contempt and the typical willingness to posture. So bold, so missing the point. Dunning-Kruger rules ok. I’ve heard your music, forward-looking? That through itself wouldn’t be a point for judgement, but the pretense there only showed us an ahistorical bent. Were we supposed to be impressed? A silliness.

Nothing changes with that guy. Just put him on ignore like I do. It also saves me reading his weird arrogance in people’s quotes

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:21 pm

AngelCityOutlaw wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:35 am
fese wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:57 am I never listened to “synthesizer music”. Most of it feels cold and lifeless to me, also I prefer songs over sounds. I have nothing against synths (some of my best friends are synths!), but more as another color in a song arrangement, not complete tracks made only with synths...
I went through a phase of it in my early 20s, where I was really into electronic music.

Now, I mostly prefer listening to acoustic instruments; be they real or sampled. There're these human elements to "real instruments" unto themselves which synths will never be able to replicate.

The main thing with synths I find is that the most "interesting" sounds are the least-musical, but the most-musical ones are the least-interesting and cheesy-sounding.

But I think I'll always have a soft spot for those 90s keyboard-patch type sounds and synth solos alongside acoustic instruments and orchestras like in Yanni's music.

I went through a similar phase but I maybe exited it differently: I adore the combination of synthetic sounds with acoustic sounds.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:21 pm

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:23 pm

telecode wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:15 pm
vurt wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:05 pm
im sorry hink, but the post above yours is a sly dig at ne, again, not sure why, all ive done here is suggest synth music and i did eye roll at him for a previous "stop the flaming" as he was the one adding the off topic attacks.

now accusing me of contacting jan, like he has the cerebral fortitude for me to need back up.

i have no desire to argue with him, it would be time better served arguing with jelly, id get better brain excercise, but if he keeps with the snideness, i will have to bring out the potato of doom.
You know, pretty soon, i am gonna have to go over there and kidnap and tie you up and take you to stonehenge and get some Welsh warlocks to force you to carry those stones back to Wales before they separate from UK.

wrong answer

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:30 pm

telecode wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:19 pm
Hink wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:02 pm so we are done with this thread...stay on topic and stop the flaming from all sides.../end
^^ Agreed!!

But.. no we are not done with topic!! I think the OP asked a totally valid question for KVR community. Does anyone still like to listen to full length releases that are like the old Vangelis or Larry Fast records. Sure there are listeners. If its' done well and has artistic focus. Will you get lots of traction with the chill*.* Spotify playlist crowds? Probably not. They prefer to zonk out and chill to "chill" crap. They probably won't sit there with head phones and focus on the music that much -- but who knows? I could be wrong. You will never know unless you try to pull it off!!

Don't forget the musical environment in which those artists released their ground breaking works. Abba and Boney M ruled the world and very few electronic niche artists like them.

I will always prefer full albums. I want a full experience for my listening. I can enjoy music casually, but I prefer focused listening, and artists who put together full albums with solid themes and moods throughout.

It disturbs me to see artists being pressured to present their art in bite sized morsels to accommodate the weird preferences of today’s listeners, and it’s disturbing to me to find myself saying “you kids get off my lawn” type commentary.

My newest girlfriend is just barely a millennial (closer to my generation) and she shows a lot of the acculturation into short attention span tastes for popular music. However, she ALSO appreciates artful and complex stuff, when she thinks on it and has the mental headspace to focus on it (she’s super easily distracted and single-tasking, and I wonder if that’s also acculturation).

Also: hey there, fellow Trent Reznor/NIN fan

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:31 pm

Hink wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:28 pm then we stop the pot shots back and forth...I say this all the time, getting that one last shot in is a huge problem because it just reignites everything, everyone else thinks well I get my rebuttal now which is just another shot...that's all I'm asking, stop

Sorry for my pot shot. I came in late and tend to reply before I’ve reached page 7 or 8 or 649...

harryupbabble · Post by **harryupbabble** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:43 pm

To answer the topic's title, I am not sure I'm still listening to synthesizers.

For example, I was listening to Adam Green's Jessica Simpson song:

At first I thought it was an acoustic song, a busking sort of a song.

But I heard strings(?) later on. Are those real strings or synthesizers? I'm not sure.

telecode · Post by **telecode** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:51 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:30 pm It disturbs me to see artists being pressured to present their art in bite sized morsels to accommodate the weird preferences of today’s listeners, and it’s disturbing to me to find myself saying “you kids get off my lawn” type commentary.

I think it really depends on audience I guess. I am sure there are fans of long songs who will not be tuning into to the chill*.* playlists. I guess the "spotify effect" is most prominent on the playlist feature of that platform. If you have a playlist of 50+ songs and listener knows all the songs have been curated and will be "similar" , they skip a lot if they don't get hooked in first 10 secs of the song, which in turn created the shot attention span and listeners never get rewarded for discovering a new artist they might like, they just discover new playlists.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:50 pm

as wales was mentioned, i went there...
not so much this track, but sfa make se great use of synths, both alongside more traditional rock instruments and as solo pieces too

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:15 pm

McLilith · Post by **McLilith** » Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:47 am

Jace-BeOS wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:15 pm Fully agreed. Also: Jesus Christ, spoilers, dude!!!!

Jesus Christ Spoiler Dudes are an awesome band. I loved their self-titled debut album!

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:54 pm

Front row, JCSD@MSG, New Years, 1981

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