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Works! Thanks Michel!! :clap: :clap:

A question that script "AU validation" only works with AU plugins or also with VST3?

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Manu
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In this plugin, the first preset has been read before the AAA (Click to Load Instrument) I guess we can use [AAA]

Here are the 2 installers in case anyone wants to test them:


https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eJgiR ... ME4hFTjPbe
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Hi Manu Au Validation is Only For Audio Units
and About [AAA] it Should Work
and If you Want the "Click to Load Instrument" to Disappear from the Drop Down Menu in The Group Properties
delete the Group Properties Name "Leave it Blank" then Your Group will Show <null> and Click to Load Instrument wont show in the drop Down Menu
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Hi Manu i've tested Them Both they Work No Problem!
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See My Post on Page 10 for a "Final PDF Tutorial" How to Export Plug-Ins For Catalina
viewtopic.php?f=113&t=537798&p=7709697#p7709697
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Musik Man wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:46 pm First if You Use v2.6 Delete it
and use v2.5.9 or Below, follow this tutorial and everything will work under Catalina
it's a Simple Fix and it works
i have already wrote this fix in the Maize Sampler Manual Since v.2.5.7 at the Bottom.
and as i explained all Sampled Based Instruments "Kontakt" Included do not load a library upon loading the plugin they Open "Blank" and then you Load The Library

P.S. This is for Everybody to Test "Download the Maize Project Below" and read Carefully!
after a Little More Testing i seems we do not need to Delete the Folder "_CodeSignature" and "CodeResources" File
anymore!

we just need to add a Dummy Instrument.mse in the Contents/Resources Folder that will act as the Loader
Here the link to that Maize Loader Project
Just Export it and Rename the "Click to Load instrument.mse" to "AAA.mse"
then copy it beside you instrument.mse in Contents/Resources
That's all you have to Do!
Really Simple and it works from v2.5.6 to v2.5.9
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j6lvi9ewx8mpd ... l.zip?dl=0

Maize player loads the instruments by Alphabetical order

Please test it! before Replying!
This is For Everybody you can go to my Website and download any of My Virtual Instruments Plugins
if you are on Catalina Open with the Mouse Right Click install Logout or Re-Start and you will see all of my Plugins are Working
www.mbaudiolab.com
Wow, thanks for the info and assistance Michael...i do sense one problem though. For some reason on a few machines i tested, the menu order was NOT alphabetical. Would this create a validation issue as its trying to load a full mse not the AAA dummy one?
DopeVST are now DopeSONIX

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See My Post on Page 10 for a "Final PDF Tutorial" How to Export Plug-Ins For Catalina
viewtopic.php?f=113&t=537798&p=7709697#p7709697

About Alphabetical Order verify the name of your .mse
for Other Characters "Beatmaker" in a post Above had Something like "[EMK] Flight.mse"
so if you have something like this then Try "[AAA].mse" do the test put all your .mse in a folder then click on the top on the name row to sort them Descending you will see how to fix it! it does not matter how you name it just be sure it sorts the first one in descending order!

Once you Figured it Out Properly and fully Tested!
Please send and e-mail to Xiang to tell him that my fix Works
ask him to Drop v2.6 Shared Player and Revert to v2..5.9


here i want to Show the Difference in Loading times When using an Instrument
ESL-PADS Demo.mse 91.4MB even if this instrument seems pretty Small
Logic X seems to blacklist it on the initialization
this is Probably Because Cold and warm Opening times are too Long!


But once the plugin is Validated the size of the Library Does not Matter Anymore! it will load!

so by adding another Dummy Instrument to the Resources Folder the AAA.mse that is only 11Kb
This "AAA.mse" will load at first because it loads in alphabetical order,
and as a result this will Shorten the Loading Time


Screenshot of Library Sizes

Library Sizes.png


Loading time "Without" the AAA.mse

Loading time Without AAA mse.png


Faster Loading time "With" the "AAA.mse" added in the resources folder!

Loading Time With AAA mse.png
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See My Post on Page 10 for a "Final PDF Tutorial" How to Export Plug-Ins For Catalina
viewtopic.php?f=113&t=537798&p=7709697#p7709697
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See My Post on Page 10 for a "Final PDF Tutorial" How to Export Plug-Ins For Catalina
viewtopic.php?f=113&t=537798&p=7709697#p7709697

Hi Sample Science
Of Course you will Get that error it's because the .component is Blocked By the Gatekeeper
there is a way to unblock the *.component i already explained this to to Beat_Maker in a previous post
Good for testing but not for the end User!
"Check Security and Privacy to see if the plugin shows there as Blocked!
Head to System Preferences > Security and Privacy > General and look for a note at the bottom of the screen about an app launch being denied.
Click on “Open Anyway” to bypass Gatekeeper and launch the app.
as in this Gatekeeper How To:
https://www.howtogeek.com/443611/how-ma ... ures-work/


the best way to Deploy your Plugins as i explained Before is to use an installer
it's easier for the end user just need to right click the Mouse
and about the aaa.mse you have to copy it inside all Mac Plugins VST,VST3 and Audio Units
About the Packages Project heres the one i created for Beat_Maker
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n8w4yu0jukef4 ... 2.zip?dl=0
and the script is only to run the auval tool for Logic X
Michel
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Hi Sample Science
it worked Because of the installer mouse right Click is Bypassing the Gatekeeper and you were able to load it probably because your Plugin sample size was Pretty Small
but if you have plugins with large sample sets then you will need that AAA.mse or any Blank Instrument as a Loader because of the loading times
so to be Safe start to use a Loader as i specified in my previous posts other Software like Kontakt are not loading a sample set on loading the plugin they open the Plugin with no Sound "Blank" and then you Choose a Sample Library

i've been creating my Plugins using this method since v2.5.6 i re wrote the Maize Sampler manual for Xiang on v.2.57 and +
this was clearly stated at the end of the Manual
Check the Manual

Musik Man
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