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fuzzlightyear wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:21 pm
wagtunes wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 5:54 pm
Who cares? I buy things because I feel I have a use for it. No other reason. This year so far, almost 5 full months into the year, I haven't bought one synth. Hell, the only thing I bought all year was a new controller for $260 because my old one had so many problems with it.

I hardly buy synths at all anymore. But if something comes out that I find interesting enough to get, I'll get it.

I couldn't care less if all the hardware synths in the world ever made got emulated.
I'm not going to tell you what to spend your money on, just trying to let you know that eventually long time consumers of digital software emulating classic and discontinued hardware is eventually going to run it's course.

I believe it's already happening with the over saturation of the marketplace and everyone already having SSDs full of plugins they haven't touched in years. There are better places to put your money, but if it's a hobby, obsession or whatever, enjoy it because you're right, no one cares.
Actually, there is one person who has to care. The developer. If they're going to put money into making an emulation, they have to be reasonably sure that it's going to sell. Developers don't do this just for the love of synths alone. Anybody who believes that is delusional. This is still a business.

Will the day come when every hardware synth has been expertly emulated (because right now there are plenty of crappy ones)? Probably. But we're not even close to being there.

We still don't have a great emulation for any of these synths, all of which I think are special and I am sure others feel the same way.

Yamaha CS-80
Alesis A6 Andromeda
Korg Poly 800
Yamaha SY22
Ensoniq SQ-80
Yamaha GX1
ARP 2600
Sequential Circuits Prophet VS
Hartman Neuron
E-MU Proteus 1
Oberheim Matrix 6
ARP Chroma

And that's just scratching the surface. What I wouldn't give for any of these.

Sadly, it is doubtful we will EVER see any GREAT emulations of any of these.

Point is, there is still plenty yet untapped.

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mholloway wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:43 pm
andrew71 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 3:54 pm My upgrade price was $49, but I have the V-Collection and Effects collection too.
it looks like it's 49 bucks for everybody right now, regardless of what products you own - this image is from their main page on the synth, not my news page:
I believe as long as you're logged in you'll see your personalized price there.
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mholloway wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:43 pm
andrew71 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 3:54 pm My upgrade price was $49, but I have the V-Collection and Effects collection too.
it looks like it's 49 bucks for everybody right now, regardless of what products you own - this image is from their main page on the synth, not my news page:

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Shows $149 here. :shrug:

https://www.arturia.com/products/analog ... v/overview

Too bad since at $49 it would be a no brainer.
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wagtunes wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:51 pm We still don't have a great emulation for any of these synths, all of which I think are special and I am sure others feel the same way.

Yamaha CS-80
Alesis A6 Andromeda
Korg Poly 800
Yamaha SY22
Ensoniq SQ-80
Yamaha GX1
ARP 2600
Sequential Circuits Prophet VS
Hartman Neuron
E-MU Proteus 1
Oberheim Matrix 6
ARP Chroma
I wouldn't include all of those in my list, but I would add quite a few to it, though :hihi:
Fernando (FMR)

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fmr wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:58 pm
wagtunes wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:51 pm We still don't have a great emulation for any of these synths, all of which I think are special and I am sure others feel the same way.

Yamaha CS-80
Alesis A6 Andromeda
Korg Poly 800
Yamaha SY22
Ensoniq SQ-80
Yamaha GX1
ARP 2600
Sequential Circuits Prophet VS
Hartman Neuron
E-MU Proteus 1
Oberheim Matrix 6
ARP Chroma
I wouldn't include all of those in my list, but I would add quite a few to it, though :hihi:
I would add quite a few too. I was just giving a small sample.

Point is, we are nowhere near emulation saturation yet.

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wagtunes wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:59 pm I would add quite a few too. I was just giving a small sample.

Point is, we are nowhere near emulation saturation yet.
I agree... The market didn't become saturated with the hardware (which was way more expensive) why should it be saturated with plug-ins?

Everything that is being emulated was being sold once... as hardware.
Fernando (FMR)

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Demos sound nice! But since I know Synapse is on the way with a OB emulation too, I'll def wait and compare the two. The ideal for me would be if one of these companies got an official endorsement from Tom Oberheim and shared some profit, that would def swing me and it would look great on the plugin too, would probably sell more. It's not really much different than how PA has an official SSL endorsement for their channel strips.

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Pointing out the obvious, but nearly all the emulations are pre-1990 so there's about 30 years of later synths to emulate. I wonder if that's due to patents/trademarks still in effect or more a perceived lack of interest in those largely digital synths?

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WatchTheGuitar wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 7:12 pm Pointing out the obvious, but nearly all the emulations are pre-1990 so there's about 30 years of later synths to emulate. I wonder if that's due to patents/trademarks still in effect or more a perceived lack of interest in those largely digital synths?
It's a market for boomer's juvenile dreams.
They lost track of synth development in the nineties and later...

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WatchTheGuitar wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 7:12 pm Pointing out the obvious, but nearly all the emulations are pre-1990 so there's about 30 years of later synths to emulate. I wonder if that's due to patents/trademarks still in effect or more a perceived lack of interest in those largely digital synths?
Definitely not lack of interest, so I'd say it's the former.

For example, I doubt anyone could emulate the Andromeda without having to pay royalties to Alesis.

OTOH, anyone could create a synth that would be on pair with Andromeda feature wise, without necessarily emulating it. But that wouldn't be so attractive in terms of marketing, I guess.
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Calenberger wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 7:14 pm
WatchTheGuitar wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 7:12 pm Pointing out the obvious, but nearly all the emulations are pre-1990 so there's about 30 years of later synths to emulate. I wonder if that's due to patents/trademarks still in effect or more a perceived lack of interest in those largely digital synths?
It's a market for boomer's juvenile dreams.
They lost track of synth development in the nineties and later...
I can't speak for everyone but that was definitely true for me. The last 2 synths I bought before giving up totally were the Korg Triton Rack (1999) and the Yamaha Motif (2001).

After that, I have no idea what came out nor did I care.

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Not tried yet, but, would say, perhaps a less desirable addition what i would want to see today in V collection. There was a bunch of many other more interesting candidates.

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Calenberger wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 7:14 pm It's a market for boomer's juvenile dreams.
They lost track of synth development in the nineties and later...
I'm a Boomer but I'm more interested in the future of synthesis than the past since I already lived through that period.

That's why I no longer care about hardware and have focused on the versatility and potential of software.

I think it's a lot of Gen X,Y,Z whatever who are interested in the past.

Someone told them the pinnacle of synthesis was back then and they believed it. :shrug:
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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wagtunes wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 7:18 pm I can't speak for everyone but that was definitely true for me. The last 2 synths I bought before giving up totally were the Korg Triton Rack (1999) and the Yamaha Motif (2001).

After that, I have no idea what came out nor did I care.
After that came VSTi synths and hardware went the way of the horse and buggy..... :hihi:
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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I'd like them to consolidate their product lines to improve their existing products and also provide options in presets with complimentary FX Collection effects chain presets - "Effects Lab" anyone?

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