Why isn't Melda more popular?

[excuse me please]

Jordancers, yes.

[Tyrs]

People do not want and need endless possibilities anymore.

That's just a trend. In one or two years people will reach out for possibilities back again.

[Tagirijus]

But OK - constructive: People do not want and need endless possibilities anymore. That is one thing.

I would not say "people" in general. Me, for example, quite like to have full control and almost endless possibilities, if needed. But I can totally understand your (and probably many other users) points: often times simpler options are better in the workflow; no question.

I guess that's why Melda came up with the easy screen and that's why they are constantly pushing new devices etc. So I think they try to improve their tools according to the critic point "too complex", but still try to keep the balance to still let other users have the deeper complexity of the plugins (thus edit screens and easy screens).

While, by the way: most basic tools are quite easy and I use them everyday. Like their EQs or compressors.

But yeah: maybe this is also not for everybody, which also is totally understandable and ok. These poeple are free to not use Melda tools then. (-;

And as we can see even M themselves have problems with the complexity they produce. They can't really describe it anymore - neither in marketing nor their so called manuals.

How does Melda have a problem with the complexity? Again: this is no rhetorical question; I am really curious and want to understand.

[GRUMP]

But OK - constructive: People do not want and need endless possibilities anymore. That is one thing.

I would not say "people" in general. Me, for example, quite like to have full control and almost endless possibilities, if needed. But I can totally understand your (and probably many other users) points: often times simpler options are better in the workflow; no question.

For sure not all "People". But anyway -you know what I mean - and I want to point to the cometitors in this case. Zynaptic, Acustica Audio and many others have other Solutions than Options. Me personally - I lately spent lots of ammo on tools that mainly save my time and just deliver godd results quickly.

I guess that's why Melda came up with the easy screen and that's why they are constantly pushing new devices etc. So I think they try to improve their tools according to the critic point "too complex", but still try to keep the balance to still let other users have the deeper complexity of the plugins (thus edit screens and easy screens).

While, by the way: most basic tools are quite easy and I use them everyday. Like their EQs or compressors.

But yeah: maybe this is also not for everybody, which also is totally understandable and ok. These poeple are free to not use Melda tools then. (-;

I don´t really have the time now. To make a long story short: I totally like Meldas way - but if you really want to work with e. g. the MSF seriously you have to or at least should work somehow systematically. You´ll maybe start with generator and modulatior Presets and go on in lots of little steps that build upon each others. And in the end you can simplify that complexity with MP-automation in an easy screen. I absolutely like this idea and approach - but I know many people who were too stupid to install their DAW - or just want to play around anyway - so Melda would be for the serious and the pro´s. But is it - really? Is that really the target group of markerting and development?

And as we can see even M themselves have problems with the complexity they produce. They can't really describe it anymore - neither in marketing nor their so called manuals.

How does Melda have a problem with the complexity? Again: this is no rhetorical question; I am really curious and want to understand.
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The MSF has so many options. The GUI anyway. You can do much with it. And its new content for example. That is too much to desribe - sensefully - for all target groups.
All that is complexity - and complexity is difficult to handle in sales. People usually make simple staements and great packaging in this case, they focus on the image. Melda seems to be a little bit overwhelmed with this issue. I can´t see a consistant strategy here.

Sry, kids are waiting ...

[MeldaProduction]

Hehe quite some debate here, unfortunately from what I read it's nothing new.

Ok, so here's the thing:
PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT! Some people like simple tools, quick job, done. Others like lots of features, so they can be creative. I'm trying to have both, but sadly that's quite a brutal job . Anyways for some reason, some people really like to tell others how things should be, "what's the only true god" so to speak . And I learned there's no discussion with them, waste of time, so I'm not going to do that here.
Instead here's how I view things and to understand some of your thoughts I noticed:

- Melda plugins are complex and there's a reason for it, I like lots of features, similar ideology you can find in Reaper for example. If you don't like that, just go somewhere else, the rest of the market is there.

- I could indeed make my life much easier, if I was building simple plugins - way easier development and maintenance, bigger market. On the other hand, when it comes to the market, Melda probably has no relevant competition in that area , while the market for simple tools is quite saturated. But now you can build plugins inside plugins! How cools is that! Well obviously not so cool to everyone

- The plugins are imho actually very streamlined. The most important stuff is presented immediately, then you can "peel it like onion" and go into lower levels. The problem is, some people seem to feel like they NEED to understand the whole thing, not sure why.

- One obvious problem is that I had to make MANY choices about what to include, what not and what would be available on which level. And you'd be all surprised how controversial that would be. Some people consider feature A need to have, other's would trash it... That's the complex life when designing complex plugins.

- It's based on a technical GUI system, which creates big part of the GUI automatically, yes. That's what let me build pretty much everything so quickly. But it has a huge advantage - learn one, learn all. You may like it, you may not, that's up to you.

- I actually think the new Neon based interfaces look awesome, but we can certainly disagree on that . Anyways we are doing audio... and everyone has a different taste.

- Sales are more than fine and growing, so I do not worry. On the contrary, stats show that people are getting more and more educated and interested in more versatile tools.

- I make the "smiley only posts" on the forum, because I want these topics to go up. I come here once in a while and respond to dozens of topics, so these topics would get burried, but often there is some cool content, new video from Chandler or others for example and that would be quite a waste

- I trash Apple if they deserve it. And how is that different from Apple fans going here and trashing Melda . I at least trash them for things they actually do and you cannot know that, if you are not a developer. But some fans do not want to know that. Which makes it a relegion. Btw. just finishing M1 support... it was quite a pain, but seems promising . I wonder how that will turn up. World could use some improvements after the years of "no improvement" on x86 front. But I'm not so excited just yet.

- And yes, we could absolutely use more presets, better demoes, but if you look at all the arsenal, it's not that simple

At the end, some people love them, some people hate them, and that's just fine . I'm happy

[Mrs_Midi]

- And yes, we could absolutely use more presets, better demoes, but if you look at all the arsenal, it's not that simple

I would agree, there is a lot.

- Melda plugins are complex and there's a reason for it, I like lots of features, similar ideology you can find in Reaper for example.

Nothing wrong with that.

[Underoath77]

You really are the best I definitely love using reaper because I love options and options and options, I have a feeling over the next 10 years we're still going to get more melda, products then we know what to do with but you bring up a lot of points I never thought about. I never really thought about how technically your plugins were but they definitely don't have any competition I can think of...

Hehe quite some debate here, unfortunately from what I read it's nothing new.

Ok, so here's the thing:
PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT! Some people like simple tools, quick job, done. Others like lots of features, so they can be creative. I'm trying to have both, but sadly that's quite a brutal job . Anyways for some reason, some people really like to tell others how things should be, "what's the only true god" so to speak . And I learned there's no discussion with them, waste of time, so I'm not going to do that here.
Instead here's how I view things and to understand some of your thoughts I noticed:

- Melda plugins are complex and there's a reason for it, I like lots of features, similar ideology you can find in Reaper for example. If you don't like that, just go somewhere else, the rest of the market is there.

- I could indeed make my life much easier, if I was building simple plugins - way easier development and maintenance, bigger market. On the other hand, when it comes to the market, Melda probably has no relevant competition in that area , while the market for simple tools is quite saturated. But now you can build plugins inside plugins! How cools is that! Well obviously not so cool to everyone

- The plugins are imho actually very streamlined. The most important stuff is presented immediately, then you can "peel it like onion" and go into lower levels. The problem is, some people seem to feel like they NEED to understand the whole thing, not sure why.

- One obvious problem is that I had to make MANY choices about what to include, what not and what would be available on which level. And you'd be all surprised how controversial that would be. Some people consider feature A need to have, other's would trash it... That's the complex life when designing complex plugins.

- It's based on a technical GUI system, which creates big part of the GUI automatically, yes. That's what let me build pretty much everything so quickly. But it has a huge advantage - learn one, learn all. You may like it, you may not, that's up to you.

- I actually think the new Neon based interfaces look awesome, but we can certainly disagree on that . Anyways we are doing audio... and everyone has a different taste.

- Sales are more than fine and growing, so I do not worry. On the contrary, stats show that people are getting more and more educated and interested in more versatile tools.

- I make the "smiley only posts" on the forum, because I want these topics to go up. I come here once in a while and respond to dozens of topics, so these topics would get burried, but often there is some cool content, new video from Chandler or others for example and that would be quite a waste

- I trash Apple if they deserve it. And how is that different from Apple fans going here and trashing Melda . I at least trash them for things they actually do and you cannot know that, if you are not a developer. But some fans do not want to know that. Which makes it a relegion. Btw. just finishing M1 support... it was quite a pain, but seems promising . I wonder how that will turn up. World could use some improvements after the years of "no improvement" on x86 front. But I'm not so excited just yet.

- And yes, we could absolutely use more presets, better demoes, but if you look at all the arsenal, it's not that simple

At the end, some people love them, some people hate them, and that's just fine . I'm happy

[sirmonkey]

My take:
1. Melda plugins can be just as simple to use as anything else. Just skip the edit screens & multi-parameters..etc. * You still get a lot of flexibility. You can go a little more complex, or WAY more complex, if you want to. Users can just skip using features that they don't understand.

2. I am guessing that many who like simple also like GUI's that look like expensive gear.
A GUI that looks like a real piece of hardware gives a certain impression of authenticity.
It can make a user become more convinced that they have something impressive/high-end.
(Even though I consciously know this, I am not immune).
So I'm thankful that Melda is focused on functionality/features.
* I love the new skin posted by werzel! Very nice indeed.

3. The free bundle is super generous. You can do A LOT, just with that. One could easily spend
100's of $$$'s to match what's in the bundle. *It's one hell of a hook though!

[Hexspa]

Melda is obviously popular. This thread is 8 pages long.

[DJBzzy]

Luv the simple and the complex. No end to MXXX, MSoundfactory. Can make a sound fast or take all day. Never get bored. The best.

[Michael L]

Melda is obviously popular. This thread is 8 pages long.

But the OP is asking, "Why isn't this thread more long?"

[Underoath77]

No dumbass. I'm not.

Melda is obviously popular. This thread is 8 pages long.

But the OP is asking, "Why isn't this thread more long?"