Some usb ports on my Asus prime are so close you can really use every other port. That's just not acceptable!legendCNCD wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:25 pm All I want from motherboard is 1. low DPC, 2. no extras meaning no wifi, bt, or extra controllers, 3. or if 2. they should be able to be completely disabled via BIOS
Intel Raptor Lake 13th Generation Core CPUs
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- KVRAF
- 3125 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia
- KVRian
- 1186 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil
It's a niche, but for those who use it...2DaT wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:38 am Don't expect the developers to fully support it for the next 5-7 years. Won't happen and doesn't make sense.

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- KVRian
- 636 posts since 21 Jun, 2013
That only means that their existing code is lacking. AVX512 can't magically make things faster on a hardware that splits the instructions into 2 halves.
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- Banned
- 175 posts since 31 May, 2023
Unless you're a hardcore gamer who needs a portable rig for some reason, these gaming laptops are ridiculous. Not only are they hideously ugly and really, really tacky, they are also freaking huge. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them weigh close to 10 pounds. Who would buy something like this for music production? Just build a tasteful PC tower with proper thermals and a reasonably low noise floor.Pictus wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:42 pm I do not follow laptop/notebooks, but the last time I checked the
best(sturdy) models were from
https://www.sagernotebook.com/home.php or https://eurocom.com/ec/main%28%29ec
Anyway, I would check reviews:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Reviews.55.0.html
https://www.mobiletechreview.com/notebook.htm
https://www.digitaltrends.com/laptop-reviews/
https://laptopmedia.com/category/reviews/
The only PC laptops I would consider are the core i9 Asus Zenbook Pro 14 OLED and the core i9 Dell XPS 17 Touchscreen.
Asus: https://tinyurl.com/2atgqzbs
Dell: https://tinyurl.com/23gamwup
There's just one tiny little catch. The Zenbook model with 32GB of RAM and a 2TB NVMe SSD costs a whopping $3,750! The Dell is even more expensive at over $4,000. Those are Apple M2 Max MacBook Pro prices. Sure, the Zenbook and XPS 17 will significantly outperform the MacBook (especially in graphics performance). But I'd still go with the M2 Max MacBook Pro for less heat/noise, much longer battery life, an even better and brighter display, and a better selection of ports. I'd then wait for the 3 nanometer M3 version of the Mac Studio Ultra as my primary desktop music computer.
This just shows that Apple Silicon MacBooks are not overpriced for what you get.
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- KVRAF
- 2195 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
Correction: They will outperform anything while plugged in.Ex Machina wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:36 pm Sure, the Zenbook and XPS 17 will significantly outperform the MacBook (especially in graphics performance).
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- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
The Asus seems interesting... Especially as it has an OLED display and I loooove OLED display.sQeetz wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:03 pmCorrection: They will outperform anything while plugged in.Ex Machina wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:36 pm Sure, the Zenbook and XPS 17 will significantly outperform the MacBook (especially in graphics performance).
But the problem is always the same:
Extract from "Stuff" magazine:
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Either way, the built-in fans quickly pick up speed (and noise) when you run demanding tasks or play games. It’s dramatically loud, despite the abundance of air vents around the laptop’s rear and sides, so you’ll want to use headphones to drown it out. Simpler stuff like web browsing is whisper quiet, though.
You can charge the 76Wh battery over USB-C if you have a beefy enough power brick, but you’ll need to use the bundled adaptor and its barrel jack connection to get full performance from the CPU/GPU combo."
Reference: https://www.stuff.tv/review/asus-zenboo ... ed-review/
Why would one use for music a laptop which is "dramatically loud" according to a journalist who is not even using is for music...?
- KVRAF
- 2195 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
I don't know.Jac459 wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:52 pm Why would one use for music a laptop which is "dramatically loud" according to a journalist who is not even using is for music...?
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Interesting. The original review I read of the Asus Zenbook Pro 14 OLED listed the price at a sky high $3,750 for the core i9 model with 32GB of RAM and a 2TB SSD. But the "Stuff" review shows the price to be $2,300. That's more in line with other Asus laptops and is clearly a much, much better value.Ex Machina wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:36 pm There's just one tiny little catch. The Zenbook model with 32GB of RAM and a 2TB NVMe SSD costs a whopping $3,750!
I could maybe be tempted to put up with the heat and noise at that price. But I went ahead and purchased a used M1 Max MacBook Pro with 64GB of RAM and a 2TB SSD for $2,500. I just hope the older 10-core M1 Max chip has enough juice to run plenty of demanding plugins.
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- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
Having a m1 air and a m2 pro mbp, I would say .... yes clearlyEx Machina wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:16 am I could maybe be tempted to put up with the heat and noise at that price. But I went ahead and purchased a used M1 Max MacBook Pro with 64GB of RAM and a 2TB SSD for $2,500. I just hope the older 10-core M1 Max chip has enough juice to run plenty of demanding plugins.
- KVRAF
- 2195 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
I have a first gen M1 MacBook Pro. I save all my tracks to iCloud.The MacBook is plenty powerful to playback the stuff I do on the M2 Pro Mac mini...
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