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david.beholder wrote:
Gamma-UT wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:Oh .... And sorry for not belonging in your club as well. Answer or not, but I wont read it :shrug:
"La la la la can't hear you." I understand it's an approach to debate that works for five year olds. But you seem to have been around for longer than that. Isn't it time you perhaps approached things in a more mature fashion?
Man, I wouldn't be surprised that his target here is promote other synths in every Diva thread.
Just don't waste your time. Don't feed troll on payroll.
Lalala another one I wont read again :=) /me is on a muting spree. Unstoppable !

+ think of providing any beginning of the beginning of the beginning of a proof before making other people share your subtle questions :wink:
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This thread has a bit of everything in it. Scurrilous rumours, outright lies, calumny, shilling, accusations, :hihi: , bias confirmations, A/B double blind tests, statistics, .

.good work KvR!!!!!! :D
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing

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trimph1 wrote:This thread has a bit of everything in it. Scurrilous rumours, outright lies, calumny, shilling, accusations, :hihi: , bias confirmations, A/B double blind tests, statistics, .

.good work KvR!!!!!! :D
And now it even has Monty Python.


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A post from page one of this epic thread:
2ZrgE wrote:
IncarnateX wrote:
2ZrgE wrote: In a way completely useless because with a simple A/B test you could be right just be guessing.
Sure with only two choices a hit could be pure chance. However, a miss by an analog preacher man could still be embarrasing :hihi:
Trust me, they'll find their excuses. :D
And they sure as hell did. Prophecy fulfilled :tu:

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Lotuzia wrote:
david.beholder wrote:
Gamma-UT wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:Oh .... And sorry for not belonging in your club as well. Answer or not, but I wont read it :shrug:
"La la la la can't hear you." I understand it's an approach to debate that works for five year olds. But you seem to have been around for longer than that. Isn't it time you perhaps approached things in a more mature fashion?
Man, I wouldn't be surprised that his target here is promote other synths in every Diva thread.
Just don't waste your time. Don't feed troll on payroll.
Lalala another one I wont read again :=) /me is on a muting spree. Unstoppable !

+ think of providing any beginning of the beginning of the beginning of a proof before making other people share your subtle questions :wink:
If I'm not already on there, please add me to your muted list ;-)

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Yeah, it's great to be here; my friends all ran away since the moment I started talking about audio production ha ha hmm..

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A good thing is that on GS, OP who have initiated a poll can see what any poster voted. (Like X voted this, and Y voted that)
A similar function on kvr would be fine.( though there wasn't even a poll here )
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pdxindy wrote:If I'm not already on there, please add me to your muted list ;-)
May lotuzia could add himself to his mute list and by that limit his ability to post? And it would be easier rather than to mute the rest of the board one by one.
Murderous duck!

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david.beholder wrote:
pdxindy wrote:If I'm not already on there, please add me to your muted list ;-)
May lotuzia could add himself to his mute list and by that limit his ability to post? And it would be easier rather than to mute the rest of the board one by one.
Mute/foe limit is still 20(?).
And a mute that you refer to cannot be done...I just go with the flow with him.
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing

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Lotuzia wrote:Thanks for tracking me lol. Glad I'm so important for you.
Tracking? Hardly. That took all of 10 minutes to search your previous posts. I only had to go in about 8 pages to find those examples. whyterabbyt did a much better job than I could of demonstrating your posting habits.
Lotuzia wrote:Yes I promote what I want, and its often synths I've worked on. No surprise. And even sometimes from synths or companies that get a regular bashing on certain forums.
I have no problem with supporting something. The thing I take issue with the bolded statement up there: you have a stake in the game but you try to act like you don't.
And you do the same. ( But I'm just not very intersted into making a collection of the threads where you promote the stuff you like. Sorry for that)
I'd love to see your posting list. First off, I've never made a penny from any developer and this is strictly a hobby for me. Nice try at trying to act like I'm anywhere in the same ballpark as you. I support the PatchLib for u-he as a volunteer. I do it because I like the products and I'm not ashamed if anyone knows that. I also think that there are areas that u-he products do better at and less-well than others at.

I find it interesting you seem to always pop up on a thread about u-he stuff that isn't in the u-he sub-forum. I wonder how you'd feel if I, or someone else, popped up on every Xils post mentioning that ACE, Diva, or Omnisphere does those sounds equally well.

I wonder what your posts would look like if this were a Synthex vs Syn'X 2 shootout and most of the people picked the Syn'X 2 sounds. Would you still be questioning the preset maker's motives or desires to make one sound "Worse" (whatever that means)? Somehow I think those posts would look a little different.
Besides that I just NEVER made a comment on the quality of Diva in this thread. (Just read : Never ) Facts.
Ah but you do it in a slightly more subtle way by constantly promoting the competition or promoting an Xils product as being just as good for sound X or application Y. It's an implicit argument against the product and is a long-used marketing tactic.

How about this: you mention one thing that you think Diva, Ace, or any u-he product does really well. Anything really. And to make it quid pro quo I'll state that I think Syn'X 2 is a good emulation of the Elka Synthex. Were I in the market for that particular synth I'd definitely put it at the top of my list.
Oh .... And sorry for not belonging in your club as well. Answer or not, but I wont read it :shrug:
Dismiss me all you want, I'm just a hobbiest.

I support your right to post on these threads. But I too will speak my mind in turn. And I really don't care if you've muted me or not: other people can read these posts and make up their minds either way. I'm just glad the information is out there for people to decide on their own.
Feel free to call me Brian.

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Geeesh....maybe my Diva/Lady GaGa comment is truer than I thought....hmmmm :help: :hug: :hug:
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing

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bmrzycki wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:Thanks for tracking me lol. Glad I'm so important for you.
Tracking? Hardly. That took all of 10 minutes to search your previous posts. I only had to go in about 8 pages to find those examples. whyterabbyt did a much better job than I could of demonstrating your posting habits.
Lotuzia wrote:Yes I promote what I want, and its often synths I've worked on. No surprise. And even sometimes from synths or companies that get a regular bashing on certain forums.
I have no problem with supporting something. The thing I take issue with the bolded statement up there: you have a stake in the game but you try to act like you don't.
And you do the same. ( But I'm just not very intersted into making a collection of the threads where you promote the stuff you like. Sorry for that)
I'd love to see your posting list. First off, I've never made a penny from any developer and this is strictly a hobby for me. Nice try at trying to act like I'm anywhere in the same ballpark as you. I support the PatchLib for u-he as a volunteer. I do it because I like the products and I'm not ashamed if anyone knows that. I also think that there are areas that u-he products do better at and less-well than others at.

I find it interesting you seem to always pop up on a thread about u-he stuff that isn't in the u-he sub-forum. I wonder how you'd feel if I, or someone else, popped up on every Xils post mentioning that ACE, Diva, or Omnisphere does those sounds equally well.

I wonder what your posts would look like if this were a Synthex vs Syn'X 2 shootout and most of the people picked the Syn'X 2 sounds. Would you still be questioning the preset maker's motives or desires to make one sound "Worse" (whatever that means)? Somehow I think those posts would look a little different.
Besides that I just NEVER made a comment on the quality of Diva in this thread. (Just read : Never ) Facts.
Ah but you do it in a slightly more subtle way by constantly promoting the competition or promoting an Xils product as being just as good for sound X or application Y. It's an implicit argument against the product and is a long-used marketing tactic.

How about this: you mention one thing that you think Diva, Ace, or any u-he product does really well. Anything really. And to make it quid pro quo I'll state that I think Syn'X 2 is a good emulation of the Elka Synthex. Were I in the market for that particular synth I'd definitely put it at the top of my list.
Oh .... And sorry for not belonging in your club as well. Answer or not, but I wont read it :shrug:
Dismiss me all you want, I'm just a hobbiest.

I support your right to post on these threads. But I too will speak my mind in turn. And I really don't care if you've muted me or not: other people can read these posts and make up their minds either way. I'm just glad the information is out there for people to decide on their own.
Ok. Except that I never said the preset maker's motives or desires were to make one sound worse or whatever. Actually I declared the opposite. ( I would certainly not suggest that you should redo once again my post history, but well, it's written black on white ) So maybe you're confusing me with someone else for this thing ... :shrug: Else I rarely visit subforums. I support who I wish, mainly instruments I've worked with and that I know quite well and happened to enjoy while studying/operating them) like you suppport who you wish ( you declared in your Kvr interest list : U-he and Reaper and a few other things ) But ok I demute you, because you seem to me of good faith and more open minded that your previous post let me think. And I appreciate some things you said in this post, and for opening the door. I rarely resist to a small overture. As for people posting some weird things in some Xils threads, I dont worry the least. It's already there, has always been, and will always be. Same with many other companies in this forum as I said. But I wont exhume these treasures, atm I'm fully turned towards future, the past has lost a bit of its interest.

Finally, for the Hobbyist/thing, no worries. That doesnt matter the least to me. We can still talk. Life would be very sad if pros of that or this thing only talked between them. at least that's how I see things.

And finally, Ace does very well Ace ( Sorry its the only one I have )
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trimph1 wrote:Mute/foe limit is still 20(?).
Nice I still have plenty plenty of room then ...
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trimph1 wrote:Mute/foe limit is still 20(?).
And a mute that you refer to cannot be done...I just go with the flow with him.
Man deservers some changes on forum ;)))
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