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AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:44 pm

EvilDragon wrote:I have an MKS-70 (didn't hook it up and turn it on in some months now) and from what I recall it IS ridiculously sensitive to velocity in positions 2 and 3... basically position 1 was the only one I found usable when played from my Kurzweil PC3K8... So methinks Martin nailed the response in his plugin, at least from what I can tell.

Okay, cool. Thanks for that, I had no idea.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:49 pm

No prob

Although I suppose it makes sense to put all Dynamics switches to position 2 (linear) and then shape the velocity with a MIDI processing plugin before any MIDI hits PG8X... It's another way to deal with it, I'd say.

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:52 pm

EvilDragon wrote:No prob

Although I suppose it makes sense to put all Dynamics switches to position 2 (linear) and then shape the velocity with a MIDI processing plugin before any MIDI hits PG8X... It's another way to deal with it, I'd say.

You lose a lot of velocities that way. Velocity curves are best implemented inside the instrument rather itself than in the MIDI stream, where you're re-mapping only 127 values. (Though on the other hand, the Yamaha DX-7 only recognized 14 different velocities and just about nobody ever noticed.

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EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:56 pm

It's kinda hard to have a consistent control over more than 14-16 velocity levels, anyways, even if you're a master pianist.

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:00 pm

EvilDragon wrote:It's kinda hard to have a consistent control over more than 14-16 velocity levels, anyways, even if you're a master pianist.

Yeah but the fact that the same 14 sounds keep playing over and over can be noticed, particularly with sounds where the velocity modulates oscillator pitch or filter cutoffs.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:04 pm

That's true.

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:04 pm

Will Martin update this for OSX, too?

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:15 pm

Hanz Meyzer wrote:Will Martin update this for OSX, too?

It's for Windows and Mac OS X since a l-o-n-g time back. The latest update was today…

/Joachim

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:27 pm

I'm getting hanged notes in both Unison and Mono modes... I apologize if this was already stated.

lionscub68 · Post by **lionscub68** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:05 pm

EvilDragon wrote:I'm getting hanged notes in both Unison and Mono modes... I apologize if this was already stated.

I've stated the same thing about 6 months ago, fairly certain it's on Martin's list.
To verify, are you getting it when using a sustain pedal, and playing two notes?

Here's how to reproduce the error, in mono/unison mode:
play a note
press & hold sustain pedal
release first note
play a second note
release sustain pedal
release second note

the first note will continue to play, until you play that note again.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:16 pm

Tested AU in OS X 10.10 (Yosemite). Hosts: Rax, DSP-Quattro and Digital Performer 8. Plug-in passes validation and opens GUi without problems. However, if we keep playing, after a while the sound becomes "granulated" (lots of small spikes), perhaps a memory problem. My Mac is very powerful (iMax i7 2012), and has 8 GB of RAM. Will test in other hosts, like Logic, MainStage, Reaper and Garage Band, but so far the behavior is consistent. I will also test in OS X 10.9 as soon as I have the time.

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:41 pm

As Martin has mentioned, the AU version isn't optimised at all. I also get a lot of CPU-related spikes when playing notes with long-ish decay in quick succession (Live or Tracktion in Mavericks, in this case).

The VST, on the other hand, is very economical with CPU resources and I get no similar effects in the environment mentioned.

/Joachim

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:53 pm

lionscub68 wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:I'm getting hanged notes in both Unison and Mono modes... I apologize if this was already stated.
I've stated the same thing about 6 months ago, fairly certain it's on Martin's list.
To verify, are you getting it when using a sustain pedal, and playing two notes?

Here's how to reproduce the error, in mono/unison mode:
play a note
press & hold sustain pedal
release first note
play a second note
release sustain pedal
release second note

the first note will continue to play, until you play that note again.

No sustain pedal used at all! I just play some notes in Poly mode, then switch to Unison or Mono mode and getting voices playing constantly. Very annoying.

lionscub68 · Post by **lionscub68** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:52 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
lionscub68 wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:I'm getting hanged notes in both Unison and Mono modes... I apologize if this was already stated.
I've stated the same thing about 6 months ago, fairly certain it's on Martin's list.
To verify, are you getting it when using a sustain pedal, and playing two notes?

Here's how to reproduce the error, in mono/unison mode:
play a note
press & hold sustain pedal
release first note
play a second note
release sustain pedal
release second note

the first note will continue to play, until you play that note again.

No sustain pedal used at all! I just play some notes in Poly mode, then switch to Unison or Mono mode and getting voices playing constantly. Very annoying.

Ah, you're getting it with mode switching as well. That's sort of identical to what I'm doing above (in mono mode). It's a note-off/note-priority issue.

DrewDale · Post by **DrewDale** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:59 pm

Some extra sysex patches available here - http://www.synthzone.com/mschreier/

Click on the Tones link on the page

PG8X (inspired by the JX8P): new beta version uploaded