That sounds really nice but... does it mean that the release is still so far away ?Urs wrote: on a different subject, the research put into our RePro project suggests that a very CPU efficient method can be used to create Diva-quality filters, but they wouldn't exactly sound like a particular analogue filter. Which seems like a perfect match for Z3
Zebra3 Info
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- KVRist
- 142 posts since 7 Dec, 2014
my website: https://samiyounes.com
Latest releases: Attraction for Omnisphere 2 | Magma for Omnisphere 2 | Time for Soundtoys EchoBoy
Latest releases: Attraction for Omnisphere 2 | Magma for Omnisphere 2 | Time for Soundtoys EchoBoy
- KVRian
- 694 posts since 8 Apr, 2012 from planet Earth
No it is not a perfect much. It must be exactly or better then analog.Spip wrote:Urs wrote: on a different subject, the research put into our RePro project suggests that a very CPU efficient method can be used to create Diva-quality filters, but they wouldn't exactly sound like a particular analogue filter. Which seems like a perfect match for Z3
P.s. I might be wrong but thinking on tolking of Urs i got impression that awrything buyod Zebra is a side project to get work, expirince, money in order to make Zebra to have the best Uhe offereings but not watered down all in one thing.
Also the good thing of that is people can have something now then wait the full package for 7 -8 years.
Or maybe it is not Zebra but Berlin Modular.
- KVRAF
- 26963 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
you misunderstand... there is a difference between having the character of analogue filters, and having the character of a specific analogue filterchilly7 wrote:No it is not a perfect much. It must be exactly or better then analog.Spip wrote:Urs wrote: on a different subject, the research put into our RePro project suggests that a very CPU efficient method can be used to create Diva-quality filters, but they wouldn't exactly sound like a particular analogue filter. Which seems like a perfect match for Z3
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- KVRAF
- 35675 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Read again, and understand what he was saying. Zebra is not supposed to be a perfect match to a specific analog synth, simply because it wasn't created to emulate a specific synth. What he was saying is that it's possible to have Diva-quality filters while keeping CPU efficiency, which don't exactly sound like a particular analog filter, so they would qualify for use in Zebra 3.chilly7 wrote:No it is not a perfect much. It must be exactly or better then analog.Spip wrote:Urs wrote: on a different subject, the research put into our RePro project suggests that a very CPU efficient method can be used to create Diva-quality filters, but they wouldn't exactly sound like a particular analogue filter. Which seems like a perfect match for Z3
- KVRian
- 694 posts since 8 Apr, 2012 from planet Earth
diaper@ky wrote:Chilly7, you assume too much.
This particular PC IS 5 YEARS OLD.
As a criminal I rarely take offense to negative distractions.
As a fellow u-He user I also feel for your current struggle in life.
I have a new Z170, RAM and CPU I would like to share with you.
I got it for free and cannot use it due to driver incompatability.
I wish to send it to you.
I am sure it will sit here collecting dust.
Would love to see you continue enjoying synthesis.
If you're interested in corresponding with a criminal just say yes then send me your address via pm.
I tried sending a donation to Ukraine 2 years ago but the Ukranian Charity had a 15% rating.
I would feel much better knowing that my contribution didnt go to an arms dealer.
Thank you. How ever i do not need it because i have Apple Mac Pro the cylinder one. It was gifted to me. I realy enjoi it. I think it is the best computer for awry thing because it is very low noise and powerfull.
How ever i am very lucky out of most because many people cannot afford such computers even in USA.
But i am pretty sure you can gift your computer with expecting nothing in return but because of love to somebody who can use it to make good things.
P.s. But i am saving money for Zebra 2 and Satin so if somebody wants to help me with expecting nothing in return but because of love can help me.
- KVRian
- 694 posts since 8 Apr, 2012 from planet Earth
chk071 wrote:Read again, and understand what he was saying. Zebra is not supposed to be a perfect match to a specific analog synth, simply because it wasn't created to emulate a specific synth. What he was saying is that it's possible to have Diva-quality filters while keeping CPU efficiency, which don't exactly sound like a particular analog filter, so they would qualify for use in Zebra 3.chilly7 wrote:No it is not a perfect much. It must be exactly or better then analog.Spip wrote:Urs wrote: on a different subject, the research put into our RePro project suggests that a very CPU efficient method can be used to create Diva-quality filters, but they wouldn't exactly sound like a particular analogue filter. Which seems like a perfect match for Z3
I meant not a perfect much of specific existing analog gear but i meant a perfect recreation of analog itself. Or even better then analog.
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- KVRian
- 826 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Oregon, USA
Oh I just love something new than emulating some old filter from 1959. This is 2016 after all.
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- KVRist
- 245 posts since 29 Jul, 2014
No such thing as better than dicrete analog as far as sound quality and punch is concerned.
But Zebra2 has so many features that would require lots of Eurorack or MOTM modules, and since I am referring to modulation, Zebra2 Looping EGs do not even have an analog counterpart.
Interesting to see how Zebra3 might be better than Zebra2 HZ.
The lucky folks are those buying Zebra3 for the first time and having an extremely mature product with wide support.
Chingalay Howard......
But Zebra2 has so many features that would require lots of Eurorack or MOTM modules, and since I am referring to modulation, Zebra2 Looping EGs do not even have an analog counterpart.
Interesting to see how Zebra3 might be better than Zebra2 HZ.
The lucky folks are those buying Zebra3 for the first time and having an extremely mature product with wide support.
Chingalay Howard......
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- KVRer
- 5 posts since 19 May, 2014
Will Zebra 3 have support for NKS?
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- KVRian
- 1200 posts since 16 May, 2007 from At home. Good bye city ways!
That's true for a lot of things. I wasted the first ten years struggling with unstable music production systems. Nowadays, a basic Mac plus Logic (or the Windows equivalent) will give you so much more for so much less. And I can't imagine how that changes a young producer's perspective. Will they handle these things more intuitively like smartphones and other technologies that have matured only in the past five or so years?diaper@ky wrote: Interesting to see how Zebra3 might be better than Zebra2 HZ.
The lucky folks are those buying Zebra3 for the first time and having an extremely mature product with wide support.
Where I hope Zebra 3 can improve on is usability. I only ever experiment with sound design using ACE or Bazille, very rarely Hive. Diva and Zebra 2 are purely preset machines for me right now. I can't put my finger on why that is but it has to be usability as I like a lot of the ACE and Bazille presets, too.
..off to play with my music toys - library music production.
http://www.FiveMinuteHippo.com
http://www.FiveMinuteHippo.com
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- KVRAF
- 3402 posts since 6 Nov, 2006
SPLAZERlazer wrote:Will Zebra 3 have support for NKS?
What's NKS?
- KVRAF
- 5564 posts since 13 Jan, 2005 from the bottom of my heart
http://www.native-instruments.com/en/pr ... chine/nks/dayjob wrote:SPLAZERlazer wrote:Will Zebra 3 have support for NKS?
What's NKS?
Whoever wants music instead of noise, joy instead of pleasure, soul instead of gold, creative work instead of business, passion instead of foolery, finds no home in this trivial world of ours.
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- KVRist
- 245 posts since 29 Jul, 2014
I need a synth that can stand next to my hardware on sound quality.medienhexer wrote:diaper@ky wrote: Where I hope Zebra 3 can improve on is usability. I only ever experiment with sound design using ACE or Bazille, very rarely Hive. Diva and Zebra 2 are purely preset machines for me right now. I can't put my finger on why that is but it has to be usability as I like a lot of the ACE and Bazille presets, too.
Zebra2 HZ gets me closer than other Native or DSP based synth.
I actually use an FS1r, Solaris and a Code 4.
I blend Z2 HZ w/FM and Analog poly/pads mostly filling out the stereo field.
But 3 presets I have for Zebra2 HZ just kill.
2 are monophonic leads, one Wah-Wah Sync beast, and a solo Looping EG preset.
Oddly enough 1 monophonic beast just doing a large 3 Oscillator sound from an ARP 2600.
It's bigger than my Studio Electronic Code 4....!!!
I like fat bastards..
- KVRAF
- 18420 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I've always said that Zebra's work flow and look were hard to work with compared to other modulars. It's got a weird blend of flat and skeumorphic elements that are counter intuitive. Once you learn it it's fine, but it took me a while.medienhexer wrote:That's true for a lot of things. I wasted the first ten years struggling with unstable music production systems. Nowadays, a basic Mac plus Logic (or the Windows equivalent) will give you so much more for so much less. And I can't imagine how that changes a young producer's perspective. Will they handle these things more intuitively like smartphones and other technologies that have matured only in the past five or so years?diaper@ky wrote: Interesting to see how Zebra3 might be better than Zebra2 HZ.
The lucky folks are those buying Zebra3 for the first time and having an extremely mature product with wide support.
Where I hope Zebra 3 can improve on is usability. I only ever experiment with sound design using ACE or Bazille, very rarely Hive. Diva and Zebra 2 are purely preset machines for me right now. I can't put my finger on why that is but it has to be usability as I like a lot of the ACE and Bazille presets, too.
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