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HOTF · Post by **HOTF** » Thu Mar 05, 2026 1:33 pm

IvyBirds wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 10:51 pm
bmanic wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 9:36 pm Main culprit being the quite limited modulation matrix.

There are quite a few similar products that go way deeper with the synthesis options, for instance Alchemy 2, Arturia Pigments, VPS Avenger and UVI Falcon.
Mod Matrix? Wow why are you so hell bent on spreading disinformation?

Omnisphere 3 has 51 sources of Modulation and hundreds of potential destinations. Why anyone would consider that "quite limited" is beyond me unless you have some kind of agenda to shit all over Omnisphere for some reason

Using it is dead simple also. No matter what page you are in you just right click on what you want to modulate and pick a source

To compare that with UVI Falcon it has 13 primary generators, you seem to think that's deep. Maybe you can explain why 13 is deep but 51 is quite limited?

To compare that with Arturia Pigments there are 28 sources and you seem for some reason to think 28 is deep but 51 is quite limited.

VPS Avenger is more than Pigments at 49 you seem to think that is deep but still loses to Omnisphere 3's 51

I don't have any experience with Avenger 2 maybe it has more I don't know, what I do know however is that any who claims the Modulation options on Omnisphere 3 are "quite limiting" obviously has either never used them or is pushing sone kind of agenda and deliberately spreading disinformation

Was Eric Persing mean to you in Elementary School or something?

I don’t really care that much about this conversation, but sure, Omnisphere has 51 modulation sources. It’s great for what it is, but each modulator is a lot less deep than in some other synths. For example, a Serum LFO can do way more than an Omnisphere LFO. Modulation sources aren’t really apples to apples. So the raw number of mod sources doesn’t tell the whole story. Btw I have nothing against Omnisphere. I think it's awesome at what it does.

PabloHassan · Post by **PabloHassan** » Thu Mar 05, 2026 3:05 pm

Yeah I guess it can get redundant, though it's not necessarily accurate to advise people to rather jump ship on the thread basically meant to discuss the instrument. If an osc can't modulate a filter then perhaps provide an alternative option through the interface, like recommending a filter envelope or amp envelope. Whatever, anything but - Omnisphere isn't meant for you for that specific thing, which we know isn't related wholly to the point of synthesis and sound design.

IvyBirds · Post by **IvyBirds** » Thu Mar 05, 2026 6:15 pm

HOTF wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 1:33 pm
IvyBirds wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 10:51 pm
bmanic wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 9:36 pm Main culprit being the quite limited modulation matrix.

There are quite a few similar products that go way deeper with the synthesis options, for instance Alchemy 2, Arturia Pigments, VPS Avenger and UVI Falcon.
Mod Matrix? Wow why are you so hell bent on spreading disinformation?

Omnisphere 3 has 51 sources of Modulation and hundreds of potential destinations. Why anyone would consider that "quite limited" is beyond me unless you have some kind of agenda to shit all over Omnisphere for some reason

Using it is dead simple also. No matter what page you are in you just right click on what you want to modulate and pick a source

To compare that with UVI Falcon it has 13 primary generators, you seem to think that's deep. Maybe you can explain why 13 is deep but 51 is quite limited?

To compare that with Arturia Pigments there are 28 sources and you seem for some reason to think 28 is deep but 51 is quite limited.

VPS Avenger is more than Pigments at 49 you seem to think that is deep but still loses to Omnisphere 3's 51

I don't have any experience with Avenger 2 maybe it has more I don't know, what I do know however is that any who claims the Modulation options on Omnisphere 3 are "quite limiting" obviously has either never used them or is pushing sone kind of agenda and deliberately spreading disinformation

Was Eric Persing mean to you in Elementary School or something?
I don’t really care that much about this conversation, but sure, Omnisphere has 51 modulation sources. It’s great for what it is, but each modulator is a lot less deep than in some other synths. For example, a Serum LFO can do way more than an Omnisphere LFO. Modulation sources aren’t really apples to apples. So the raw number of mod sources doesn’t tell the whole story. Btw I have nothing against Omnisphere. I think it's awesome at what it does.

And that's great, but I was specifically addressing the idea that the "Mod Matrix" was "Quite Limited". A Mod Matrix by definition is simply a list of Modulation Sources and Destinations and a way to connect them

If you want to take about the functionality of the LFOs in Serum 2 versus Omnisphere 3 that's a different discussion

Serum 2 has a really good modulation system and one that is VASTLY improved over the original

There some Modulations in Omnisphere 3 like the Orb that I wish existed in Serum 2, and there are some Modulations in Serum 2 that I wish were in Omnisphere like the Chaos LFOs

PabloHassan · Post by **PabloHassan** » Thu Mar 05, 2026 8:27 pm

On second thought, to the guy about the question of modulating the filter with the osc, if you use the fm option and either alter the frequency there, or play your synth at a higher pitch, or midi range, for a higher rate of modulation on the filter, or you use your envelopes correctly by studying its effect on what is merely a dynamics processor.

PabloHassan · Post by **PabloHassan** » Thu Mar 05, 2026 8:29 pm

What you can achieve in omnisphere makes other vsts incomprehensible. Just understand the flow.

PabloHassan · Post by **PabloHassan** » Tue Mar 10, 2026 7:37 pm

The analog drift feature allows for unsynchronized synchronization. The tremolo on a proper frequency sounds like I am using a hardware synth, I don't own, but admired in a music tech store. lol

PabloHassan · Post by **PabloHassan** » Tue Mar 17, 2026 8:11 pm

Check this out:

Just messing around...

fatprice · Post by **fatprice** » Fri Mar 20, 2026 10:19 pm

Pure in Spirit preset is different between 2 and 3, my favorite, and I’m not happy..

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Fri Mar 20, 2026 10:23 pm

I'm not fond of the layout. I had Omni 1, not 2, so I don't have any frame of reference.

StartMenu · Post by **StartMenu** » Sat Mar 21, 2026 2:04 am

Omnisphere 3 is the final piece to the puzzle for plugin lovers like me in my opinion aside from the magic Reason/Live pair stuff. Live 12 has been genius. All the stuff combined leaves end users feeling like they have unlimited money when really all they need is less product!

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sat Mar 21, 2026 8:54 am

fatprice wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 10:19 pm Pure in Spirit preset is different between 2 and 3, my favorite, and I’m not happy..

please report it to Spectrasonics, i have Omnisphere 2 & 3 installed seperately on machines and am sadly not done with my comparisons.

fatprice · Post by **fatprice** » Sat Mar 21, 2026 1:31 pm

Caine123 wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 8:54 am
fatprice wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 10:19 pm Pure in Spirit preset is different between 2 and 3, my favorite, and I’m not happy..
please report it to Spectrasonics, i have Omnisphere 2 & 3 installed seperately on machines and am sadly not done with my comparisons.

They're aware. Many people talking about the presets being different.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sun Mar 22, 2026 7:15 am

fatprice wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 1:31 pm
Caine123 wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2026 8:54 am
fatprice wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 10:19 pm Pure in Spirit preset is different between 2 and 3, my favorite, and I’m not happy..
please report it to Spectrasonics, i have Omnisphere 2 & 3 installed seperately on machines and am sadly not done with my comparisons.
They're aware. Many people talking about the presets being different.

thx i will do my comparisons soon too with comparing many projects and loading up in Omnisphere 3. i learned from Omnisphere 1 -> 2 that the ALL presets will sound the same is sadly total bullshit.... no offense to Spectrasonics, their support is great but if you dont invest time to investigate and trust these statements you are gonna loose.
so i wont trust Omnisphere 3 sounding the same with loading the old projects. i would prefer a new VST name and a seperate instance Omnisphere3 this time as after 10 years i would accept to install 100GB or so additionally. i didnt test it but maybe it would be possible if you didnt use VST3 with Omni2 to install a seperate folder for Omnisphere 3 with only VST3.

AcidJunkie1974 · Post by **AcidJunkie1974** » Sun Mar 22, 2026 2:05 pm

I use Omni 2 for pads and textures under my 303 lines all the time, but a quicker workflow would be a game changer.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Mon Apr 06, 2026 5:59 pm

So I was looking for the hardware library today and was wondering if those had been updated at all withthe new filters, but the only section I see in the browser for the hardware library is under the Legacy section. So I assumed it would not be updated. But then I noticed there were some Osmose MPE presets there, which were only v3. So the Hardware library includes presets made with V3 but is under the Legacy section. Isn't that kind of strange?

I still am never sure if I'm looking at presets updated for V3 or old ones, regardless of where I'm looking in the browser.