KVR Audio

e@rs · Post by **e@rs** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:01 pm

msvs wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:45 pm
So, if enough buyers would stress you to remove Codemeter, you would do?
no. Even if there would be 100 here in this board (where we are far away from, its more like 10) we have thousands on the other side, who are happy.

I bet they are. But who wouldn't be, knowing their synth has the most annoying copy protection ever? KVR is so

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HTT · Post by **HTT** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:21 pm

m-ac wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:11 pm
MachineClaw wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:00 pm Avenger plays well on my MacBook Pro BUT I have an i9 cpu and 32gb ram and have not upgraded to Catalina yet. Still on Mojave. No clue on older Mac machines.

Avenger can be a beast so I got the biggest baddest Mac book pro and spared no expense cause I knew I didn’t want issues with cpu spikes n ram shortages.

Did the same with my pc desktop.
What speed is your processor, and what buffer size do you use? Are you using logic? Do you have the atmospherica expansion by any chance?

If you let me know what expansions you have, we can do a side by side comparison to see how our cpu's compare.

Somewhat answering you and also several others: Atmospherica’s granular patches are demanding. I have a lowly 2011 iMac with a SandyBridge i7 that can choke on complex passages with granular patches with long tails and/or VA patches with several stacked oscillators. I get the same results with similar Falcon patches and with the power-hungry Diva. This phenomenon isn’t unique to Avenger, or am I missing something said back several pages in the thread? I adapt my playing. I guess that is because I remember playing synths with 8 note polyphony back in the day.

msvs · Post by **msvs** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:50 pm

you have a 9 year old machine (and a Mac). Avenger (and Falcon / Diva) may need more power

m-ac · Post by **m-ac** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:37 pm

HTT wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:21 pm I guess that is because I remember playing synths with 8 note polyphony back in the day.

8 note polyphony? I wish

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:58 pm

Well, fools, I can run a hundred Falcon instances on my machine, but often only one Avenger. Please explain. Is Avenger a hundred times superior then over Falcon?

craggvalehouse · Post by **craggvalehouse** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:13 pm

Something is not right.. it is only 99 times better.

HTT · Post by **HTT** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:32 pm

msvs wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:50 pm you have a 9 year old machine (and a Mac). Avenger (and Falcon / Diva) may need more power

That is for certain! A new iMac will be my summer purchase.

clipnotic · Post by **clipnotic** » Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:11 am

dune_rave wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:17 pm I'm satisfied with Avenger.
I run it on a 10 year old -but strong - pc, with windows 10.
I like it as it is, and don't blame the devs.
I understand their decision about copy protection.
Avenger is quite complex, but not as overcomplicated like reaktor or Falcon.
Of course It would be good to see some cpu performance improvement, there's no synth plugin it's not on the todo list.
The latest bigger addition to its features was this multiloop feature - somehow i just don't find it useful. But overall it's a super synth.

which 10 years old system is still "strong"? I have a PC Studio Tower which is as old as your system. And it has one of the first i7 CPU generation and a big RME Interface ... but my current middle class Gaming Laptop kills it easily.

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:13 am

clipnotic wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:37 pm Where can I see, which version of Avenger is installed?

Click on the "Sys" button below the Routing display.

clipnotic · Post by **clipnotic** » Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:14 am

Examigan wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:13 am
clipnotic wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:37 pm Where can I see, which version of Avenger is installed?
Click on the "Sys" button below the Routing display.

Thank you!

mgw38 · Post by **mgw38** » Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:24 am

clipnotic wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:11 am
dune_rave wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:17 pm I'm satisfied with Avenger.
I run it on a 10 year old -but strong - pc, with windows 10.
I like it as it is, and don't blame the devs.
I understand their decision about copy protection.
Avenger is quite complex, but not as overcomplicated like reaktor or Falcon.
Of course It would be good to see some cpu performance improvement, there's no synth plugin it's not on the todo list.
The latest bigger addition to its features was this multiloop feature - somehow i just don't find it useful. But overall it's a super synth.
which 10 years old system is still "strong"? I have a PC Studio Tower which is as old as your system. And it has one of the first i7 CPU generation and a big RME Interface ... but my current middle class Gaming Laptop kills it easily.

I just revitalized a 10 year old Mac Pro. Still performs at the level of a 2020 gaming laptop. Nothing mind blowing but still very usable.

sacer · Post by **sacer** » Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:15 am

What’s the problem with this copy protection?
Look at the native Instruments topic, how they solve copy protection for their old stuff ....

phreaque · Post by **phreaque** » Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:11 am

sacer wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:15 am What’s the problem with this copy protection?
Look at the native Instruments topic, how they solve copy protection for their old stuff ....

Nothing too serious, apparently some users had/having a hard time to understand the new cp. Any some other guys who messed up their XPs by mixing them with warezed ones. Other than that, all is working good.

marzelli · Post by **marzelli** » Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:35 pm

sacer wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:15 am What’s the problem with this copy protection?
Look at the native Instruments topic, how they solve copy protection for their old stuff ....

e.g. cm container broken, server not available/error during activation, activated multiple or none licenses, issues with beta/regular licenses, processes running *all the time* which are needed for the cp, issues in combination with other copy protection mechanisms, manual renewal after x days, antivirus triggering because cm uses malware like methods internet data exchange.

btw the same problem NI has right now with customers not being able to activate their older products is something Avenger customers will face too.

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