Newbie Questions

[warbug]

ok i have finally installed the demo on my mothership ) i had it on my laptop B4)


how do i sequence my hard ware with tracktion....i did not see a filter that said midi out..

[ModuLR]

Click on the actual track.. then in the lower panel set the destination output to your desired midi out. I think that should work.

[warbug]

ok thanks that werked.....this thing has breathed new life inot my hardware automation is SOOOOOOOOO F!@#ing easy i thought reason was a breeze to automate but damn.....this is F*$)(*ing awesome.


now next question...i tried to move a clip around the sequencer but i was unable neither the arrows or the square allowed me to do it.

since i have the demo there is that noise burst right...but i also experienced audio cut out when my hardware was going threw it....is that part of the demo also?

[ModuLR]

to move a midi/audio clip around.. zoom in enough so that red bar appears on top.. The box and the arrows are for other functions. You can tell when you can grab a clip to move it when you place the cursor over the top (red bar) portion of the clip.. it'll turn into a little hand.. just grab it and move it around.

regarding the noise bursts and audio cuts.. I dunno.. I bought the damn thing almost immediately so I've never experienced that problem... hahah

[warbug]

ok thanks.


yea its my next purchase i would have bought it already but i spent my money on RM4 already.....

[warbug]

ok.

after a day of recording with tracktion i noticed that i had 15 wav files named drums....i figured out how to rename them properly BUT how do you redirect them into the folder that you want b4 you record. like it seems that the default is to save everything to the tracktion folder, no matter what song you record in. i like to separate my songs in different folders with that edit file,wavs and any midi files....

[fabi]

Okay, this may come across as really dumb, but can you use your computer keyboard as the input devide for midi notes? Yes, it is insane, but I do not own any keyboards besides qwertz and qwerty ones.

Also I just wanted to say that I had downloaded the demo ages ago, but never got around to trying it out - I must say that so far I am totally blown away. The interface is so user-friendly and intuitive, the freezing is great, no unnecessary crap on the screen. Oh my god - can this be true? At that price? Downsides for me are the lack of DX plug-in support and erm... Don't know about others yet since I haven't looked into it enough.

One more quick question - Do you have to pay via credit card?

(And such a friendly customer/target group support... At least Jules seems less stressed out unlike certain other developers. )

[jules]

I've been asked for a soft-keyboard thing before, and would like to do it one day, because I mostly use a laptop and it'd be handy when I've not got my keyboard plugged in. There's definately a plugin you can use that does this, though (can't remember the name, sorry).

and yes, you have to pay by credit card - unfortunately I'm not geared up to deal with old-fashioned money..

[P.T.]

fabi wrote;

Okay, this may come across as really dumb, but can you use your computer keyboard as the input devide for midi notes? Yes, it is insane, but I do not own any keyboards besides qwertz and qwerty ones.

My quest for a solution to this led me first to Trollo (look to the top right of the KvR page and click on instruments). Trollo will allow you to play your VSTi's ( just insert it in front of the VSTi filter you want to control and you can play your laptop's keyboard), but I never found a way to use it to enter midi notes.
But take heart! Go to www.bome.com and get the bome keyboard. I also use Hubi's loopback to hook it up. I've heard that midi yoke does this also and have heard you don't need a keyboard interface to use that. I don't know as I am using the Bome.
Hubi's will give you virtual in and outs, which will show up in Tracktion. Activate one of the inputs on the settings page. That will cause an input arrow to appear on the left side of the edit page. Connect that arrow to the track you want to record on and set Bome's output to that same in/out #. Now you can use the laptop keyboard. Somtimes you have to click on bome's keyboard to get it started, and sometimes it just won't work and has to be restarted, but it is a great tool.

[P.T.]

Jules wrote;

I've been asked for a soft-keyboard thing before, and would like to do it one day, because I mostly use a laptop and it'd be handy when I've not got my keyboard plugged in.

It would be great if you could do this. The Bome works but it is a stand alone and so any time you click on Tracktion to do something Bome gets minimized and has to be opened up again. You also have to always remember to click on the Bome interface or else your keyboard playing triggers Tracktion's shortcuts.
When I was using FL, it's built-in system for this function bypassed those problems.

[futureweaver]

My quest for a solution to this led me first to Trollo (look to the top right of the KvR page and click on instruments). Trollo will allow you to play your VSTi's ( just insert it in front of the VSTi filter you want to control and you can play your laptop's keyboard), but I never found a way to use it to enter midi notes.

This has been explained in other threads, but here's a recipe. Trollo will record MIDI if you :
1. install midiyoke (on NT/2k/XP - presumably Hubi's will do the same on 9x/ME), add its channel 1 input and output to Tracktion's devices
2. put trollo in a track on its own (no sample or MIDI, no fader, no meter), send the output of that track to midi-yoke-1
3. connect midi-yoke-1 input to the track you want to record

It looks intuitive to drag trollo onto the input side, but it doesn't work, though the above is equivalent. I expected not to need midiyoke, but it seems "send the output to another track" doesn't work for recording if the first track outputs MIDI.

Jules, 2 questions :
1. You've suggested that dragging a MIDI VST onto the input side will sometime be supported - presumably either as a standalone (if it can generate MIDI with no input, as trollo does) or after a MIDI input (if it processes MIDI in some way). Any time soon?
2. Is there some reason why MIDI output directed to another track doesn't record?

[jules]

1. You've suggested that dragging a MIDI VST onto the input side will sometime be supported - presumably either as a standalone (if it can generate MIDI with no input, as trollo does) or after a MIDI input (if it processes MIDI in some way). Any time soon?
2. Is there some reason why MIDI output directed to another track doesn't record?

1 - well it's not a top priority, but it'll get done eventually.
2 - if all the redirected audio and midi got recorded the whole thing would be unusable! The correct way to record the output of a track is to render it.

[futureweaver]

2 - if all the redirected audio and midi got recorded the whole thing would be unusable! The correct way to record the output of a track is to render it.

True. But if the only thing in the track is the trollo VST there's nothing to render ....

[glurgle]

well I'm here and opinionated so:

having tracks record the Midi that is directed into them would be extremely annoying. It would defeat the purpose of having the midi in another track in the first place, because you would end up with two copies of your clips,

now I know that this doesn't apply in the special case of trollo, where the a plugin is the source of the midi, so in this case, midiyoke/hubis is the solution. Sure it sucks and doesn't look as pretty as dragging a midi vst to the input side of the screen, but imho that's a specialized and 75% useless feature.

My big question: if you're using trollo or any other virtual keyboard, why not just sequence like any other lowly user? it's not as though your laptop keyboard is velocity sensitive...

[P.T.]

Playing is far more intuitive and spontaneous than drawing notes in a piano roll.