android sucks (uloops studio 'pro' review)

[IncarnateX]

Well, (almost) not to wind things up, but what were the conclusions with regard to Andriod and audio? Does it "suck" with regard to audio or does it just need better apps? All other functions aside, will it be able to do everything you can do with an iPhone, including playing, recording, wi-fi transfer, pasteboard transfer and Sound Cloud upload? Nothing seems to speak against this. There are the fact that many apps far is developed lowest specs possible and the reported latency problem (not that I know crap about this apart from the rumors), which might be issues, but they can be solved can't they?

Thus the conclusion must be that Andriod does not suck for Audio, it just needs a little development and better music apps. True?

[BASSDRIVE]

Apple wins, just see Logic. They KNOW multimedia. Android, cmon, pure garbage wannabee.

[polaris20]

Well, (almost) not to wind things up, but what were the conclusions with regard to Andriod and audio? Does it "suck" with regard to audio or does it just need better apps? All other functions aside, will it be able to do everything you can do with an iPhone, including playing, recording, wi-fi transfer, pasteboard transfer and Sound Cloud upload? Nothing seems to speak against this. There are the fact that many apps far is developed lowest specs possible and the reported latency problem (not that I know crap about this apart from the rumors), which might be issues, but they can be solved can't they?

Thus the conclusion must be that Andriod does not suck for Audio, it just needs a little development and better music apps. True?

Not exactly. The way I understand it, there was a problem in Android that caused bad latency with audio apps. That's been fixed in 2.3 though, apparently. So yes it needs better apps, but the fix was necessary as well. Unfortunately the OEM's are dragging their asses getting the phones updated.

There's no reason why it won't be able to play (well it already does that) record, wifi transfer, Sound Cloud, etc. There's no technical limitation now, not even with real-time recording (with 2.3).

I would say that it's not unreasonable for app developers to require a 1Ghz processor and 2.3. That would mean it would work on the Nexus S, and soon any other phone that gets the update.

[The Chase]

Apple wins, just see Logic.

I remember when apple bought Logic and cut PC support.

[polaris20]

Apple wins, just see Logic.

I remember when apple bought Logic and cut PC support.

That was a raw deal for PC users, but unfortunately that sort of thing happens all the time in software/hardware. It's hard to say whether or not their competitors were the winners in that deal.

[NER]

Flash runs perfectly on my phone. Flash games run as if they are native. A large portion of the games I play are from kongregate. And I never get less than a day's use out of my phone, and I use it literally all day. Only slow down I notice is when there are a lot of flash objects on a page that isn't formatted for mobile, where scrolling/zooming will become choppy.

The inefficiencies of flash are well known and well documented. Flash has always been a bog on every platform, android included (which has to run non-mobile formatted flash, eck). And most of flash content on web is from advertising anyways.

Are you implying "retina" means something?

OLED is superior to LCD in literally every facet relative to what makes a screen look good. The only advantages LCD has over OLED is longevity (irrelevant to devices you won't have more than 3 years) and manufacturing cost (hence cheap resolution). I only found the "retina" display impressive when it was a few inches in front of my face.

It doesn't matter how many pixels you try to shove in a square inch; you won't overcome the short-comings of LCD technology, which don't measure up to the contrast ratio, viewing angle, refresh rate/response time, color accuracy, and deep blacks of OLED, which unlike LCD doesn't require a backlight to wash the whole picture out. Honestly, after having OLED you kind of cringe whenever you see LCD, which in these next few generations we'll see less and less in monitors and devices and more in toys and alarm clocks.

I am aware "retina" is a marketing term.
If you read the link I provided (http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_1.htm) you'd see evidence that in fact the AMOLED is inferior to the retina display on the IPhone 4.

Also, the Galaxy S has no flash LED. Sort of hard to oust the iphone 4 camera without it.
Although, the Galaxy S does have that real cool bloated TouchWiz interface...

[jrwaltb]

Flash runs perfectly on my phone. Flash games run as if they are native. A large portion of the games I play are from kongregate. And I never get less than a day's use out of my phone, and I use it literally all day. Only slow down I notice is when there are a lot of flash objects on a page that isn't formatted for mobile, where scrolling/zooming will become choppy.

The inefficiencies of flash are well known and well documented. Flash has always been a bog on every platform, android included (which has to run non-mobile formatted flash, eck). And most of flash content on web is from advertising anyways.

Are you implying "retina" means something?

OLED is superior to LCD in literally every facet relative to what makes a screen look good. The only advantages LCD has over OLED is longevity (irrelevant to devices you won't have more than 3 years) and manufacturing cost (hence cheap resolution). I only found the "retina" display impressive when it was a few inches in front of my face.

It doesn't matter how many pixels you try to shove in a square inch; you won't overcome the short-comings of LCD technology, which don't measure up to the contrast ratio, viewing angle, refresh rate/response time, color accuracy, and deep blacks of OLED, which unlike LCD doesn't require a backlight to wash the whole picture out. Honestly, after having OLED you kind of cringe whenever you see LCD, which in these next few generations we'll see less and less in monitors and devices and more in toys and alarm clocks.

I am aware "retina" is a marketing term.
If you read the link I provided (http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_1.htm) you'd see evidence that in fact the AMOLED is inferior to the retina display on the IPhone 4.

Also, the Galaxy S has no flash LED. Sort of hard to oust the iphone 4 camera without it.
Although, the Galaxy S does have that real cool bloated TouchWiz interface...[/

Actually Flash is getting really good on the Android platform. Opera now uses it so you can view videos almost like the PC. The Air platform is really getting better and could possibly be a really winner for dev's looking to make a cross platform app. I use flash on android every day and I don't see it going anywhere. I think people who say they don't use it are just buying in to the Apple hype machine. TBH I think Apple will eventually have to allow Flash because it's getting really good, every website still uses it and every other device has it. I agree that Android has it's faults but Flash is not one of them.

[jrwaltb]

Flash runs perfectly on my phone. Flash games run as if they are native. A large portion of the games I play are from kongregate. And I never get less than a day's use out of my phone, and I use it literally all day. Only slow down I notice is when there are a lot of flash objects on a page that isn't formatted for mobile, where scrolling/zooming will become choppy.

The inefficiencies of flash are well known and well documented. Flash has always been a bog on every platform, android included (which has to run non-mobile formatted flash, eck). And most of flash content on web is from advertising anyways.

Are you implying "retina" means something?

OLED is superior to LCD in literally every facet relative to what makes a screen look good. The only advantages LCD has over OLED is longevity (irrelevant to devices you won't have more than 3 years) and manufacturing cost (hence cheap resolution). I only found the "retina" display impressive when it was a few inches in front of my face.

It doesn't matter how many pixels you try to shove in a square inch; you won't overcome the short-comings of LCD technology, which don't measure up to the contrast ratio, viewing angle, refresh rate/response time, color accuracy, and deep blacks of OLED, which unlike LCD doesn't require a backlight to wash the whole picture out. Honestly, after having OLED you kind of cringe whenever you see LCD, which in these next few generations we'll see less and less in monitors and devices and more in toys and alarm clocks.

I am aware "retina" is a marketing term.
If you read the link I provided (http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_1.htm) you'd see evidence that in fact the AMOLED is inferior to the retina display on the IPhone 4.

Also, the Galaxy S has no flash LED. Sort of hard to oust the iphone 4 camera without it.
Although, the Galaxy S does have that real cool bloated TouchWiz interface...[/

Actually Flash is getting really good on the Android platform. Opera now uses it so you can view videos almost like the PC. The Air platform is really getting better and could possibly be a really winner for dev's looking to make a cross platform app. I use flash on android every day and I don't see it going anywhere. I think people who say they don't use it are just buying in to the Apple hype machine. TBH I think Apple will eventually have to allow Flash because it's getting really good, every website still uses it and every other device has it. I agree that Android has it's faults but Flash is not one of them.

[IncarnateX]

[polaris20]

Actually Flash is getting really good on the Android platform. Opera now uses it so you can view videos almost like the PC. The Air platform is really getting better and could possibly be a really winner for dev's looking to make a cross platform app. I use flash on android every day and I don't see it going anywhere. I think people who say they don't use it are just buying in to the Apple hype machine. TBH I think Apple will eventually have to allow Flash because it's getting really good, every website still uses it and every other device has it. I agree that Android has it's faults but Flash is not one of them.

1. Not every website has Flash. That's a ridiculous statement.
2. I honestly, truly, seriously block flash on Chrome on my Macs, Linux, and Windows machines, and love doing so because everything is that much faster and more importantly, more secure. Flash is a constant cesspool of malware crap. So yes, I don't miss it at all. But I understand it's important for some people, so go buy a Nexus. We're not in 2006/2007 anymore. There are multiple options.
3. I can't see Apple/Jobs ever giving in on iOS shipping with Flash. It just won't happen. MacBook Airs don't even ship with Flash anymore, and neither did the Mac Mini I just unpacked two days ago. I had to manually install it (if it were mine, I wouldn't have bothered). That's not to say it's not ubiquitous on desktop platforms; of course it is.
4. Flash is not a problem of Android. I didn't like it's performance when I had the Droid, and didn't plan to use it anyway, so I merely turned it off. No big deal.
5. You suck at quoting posts. :D

[polaris20]

Awesome image! I want it on a T-shirt.

[IncarnateX]

Awesome image! I want it on a T-shirt.

This one is cool too:



As an iOS user, I do not think this one is that cool. But it would have been great if it was the other way around.

[UltraJv]

Awesome image! I want it on a T-shirt.

This one is cool too:



As an iOS user, I do not think this one is that cool. But it would have been great if it was the other way around.

[polaris20]

Awesome image! I want it on a T-shirt.

This one is cool too:



As an iOS user, I do not think this one is that cool. But it would have been great if it was the other way around.

Yeah, I know I'm obviously an Apple fan, but I didn't find the second one funny, even when it was Calvin peeing on <Insert Car Company Logo Here>.

[penguinfromdeep]

Android really sucks...