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geez the amount of humorless braindeads on kvr is mindstaggering...
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antic604 wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:05 pm
jonljacobi wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:50 pmLive has clip gain. Are you talking about visually on the clip in the timeline? As to audio editing, I missed that at first until I realized you can do basically the same thing on the timeline, and with the aforementioned clip gain.
Where / how? I've spent 5 minutes yesterday trying all clip edges with all modifier combinations I could think of :shrug:
I think that’s done By assigning a Midi controller knob to the Clip Gain and then just pick any clip in the arrangement and adjust the knob.
No idea it that works with v11. I’m out for the weekend.
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steffensen wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:07 am
Passing Bye wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:13 am Point is to collect update money from excited upcoming beta testers and give unimpressed ones something to feel excited about.
But they don't. If you pre-order, money isn't drawn from your account until it's released.
Semantics...

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Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:49 pm
steffensen wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:07 am
Passing Bye wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:13 am Point is to collect update money from excited upcoming beta testers and give unimpressed ones something to feel excited about.
But they don't. If you pre-order, money isn't drawn from your account until it's released.
Semantics...
No. He's technically correct. The best kind of correct. You have 14 days to resign from the pre-order and even if you didn't, you can simply not pay and not upgrade. They won't drag you to court over this, I don't think
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antic604 wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:58 pm
Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:49 pm
steffensen wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:07 am
Passing Bye wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:13 am Point is to collect update money from excited upcoming beta testers and give unimpressed ones something to feel excited about.
But they don't. If you pre-order, money isn't drawn from your account until it's released.
Semantics...
No. He's technically correct. The best kind of correct. You have 14 days to resign from the pre-order and even if you didn't, you can simply not pay and not upgrade. They won't drag you to court over this, I don't think
More semantics...

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Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:00 pm
antic604 wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:58 pm
Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:49 pm
steffensen wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:07 am
Passing Bye wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:13 am Point is to collect update money from excited upcoming beta testers and give unimpressed ones something to feel excited about.
But they don't. If you pre-order, money isn't drawn from your account until it's released.
Semantics...
No. He's technically correct. The best kind of correct. You have 14 days to resign from the pre-order and even if you didn't, you can simply not pay and not upgrade. They won't drag you to court over this, I don't think
More semantics...
You don't have to pre order to use the beta
They don’t take the money when you preorder, you just get the sale price.
They are the facts that make you assertion incorrect.
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Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:00 pm
antic604 wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:58 pm
Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:49 pm
steffensen wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:07 am
Passing Bye wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:13 am Point is to collect update money from excited upcoming beta testers and give unimpressed ones something to feel excited about.
But they don't. If you pre-order, money isn't drawn from your account until it's released.
Semantics...
No. He's technically correct. The best kind of correct. You have 14 days to resign from the pre-order and even if you didn't, you can simply not pay and not upgrade. They won't drag you to court over this, I don't think
More semantics...
PayPal doesn’t charge for “semantics”.
My PayPal account it’s not showing any activity regarding the preorder placed at Ableton.
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Order, pre-order, get your money now, get your money after 14 days, get your money after 140 days, get your money with discount now or whenever, they are ultimately getting your money, so it's semantics.

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Yes, at some point in time if someone chooses to update, Ableton will make some money. That’s sort of the point of a business.
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Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:49 pm Order, pre-order, get your money now, get your money after 14 days, get your money after 140 days, get your money with discount now or whenever, they are ultimately getting your money, so it's semantics.
Take my money? They are not “taking”.
You are spinning your semantics and at each spin you are wrong.
Stop spinning :wheee:

I’m paying for a product I want to purchase and I’m getting a discounted price not even charged until the day it’s released when other will have to pay full price and be charged at the same time as me.
Definitely wrong according to you. Man, I hope you are not running a business because you don’t have a sense of negotiation whatsoever.
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anttimaatteri wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:22 pm geez the amount of humorless braindeads on kvr is mindstaggering...
Welcome!
Signatures are so early 2000s.

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liquidsound wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:09 pm I’m paying for a product I want to purchase and I’m getting a discounted price not even charged until the day it’s released when other will have to pay full price and be charged at the same time as me.
Definitely wrong according to you.
Where did I say that, what are you on about, do you even have a clue about context of my response before steffensen started nitpicking about semantics or you just enjoy arguing with people for the sake of it?
Man, I hope you are not running a business because you don’t have a sense of negotiation whatsoever.
I don't, we actually have guy that do our business and customer relations.

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Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:28 pm
liquidsound wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:09 pm I’m paying for a product I want to purchase and I’m getting a discounted price not even charged until the day it’s released when other will have to pay full price and be charged at the same time as me.
Definitely wrong according to you.
Where did I say that, what are you on about, do you even have a clue about context of my response before steffensen started nitpicking about semantics or you just enjoy arguing with people for the sake of it?
Man, I hope you are not running a business because you don’t have a sense of negotiation whatsoever.
I don't, we actually have guy that do our business and customer relations.
Read your own post.
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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liquidsound wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:40 pm
Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:28 pm
liquidsound wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:09 pm I’m paying for a product I want to purchase and I’m getting a discounted price not even charged until the day it’s released when other will have to pay full price and be charged at the same time as me.
Definitely wrong according to you.
Where did I say that, what are you on about, do you even have a clue about context of my response before steffensen started nitpicking about semantics or you just enjoy arguing with people for the sake of it?
Man, I hope you are not running a business because you don’t have a sense of negotiation whatsoever.
I don't, we actually have guy that do our business and customer relations.
Read your own post.
Very clever response, have a good one. :tu:

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Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:42 pm
liquidsound wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:40 pm
Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:28 pm
liquidsound wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:09 pm I’m paying for a product I want to purchase and I’m getting a discounted price not even charged until the day it’s released when other will have to pay full price and be charged at the same time as me.
Definitely wrong according to you.
Where did I say that, what are you on about, do you even have a clue about context of my response before steffensen started nitpicking about semantics or you just enjoy arguing with people for the sake of it?
Man, I hope you are not running a business because you don’t have a sense of negotiation whatsoever.
I don't, we actually have guy that do our business and customer relations.
Read your own post.
Very clever response, have a good one. :tu:
:clap: :dog:
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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