Best FM synth of 2022?
- KVRian
- 906 posts since 27 Apr, 2018
Your argument is pretty valid. This "mandatory donation" stuff is definitely (semi-)commercial and the website fulfills in no way any legal requirements in most countries, as impressum, privacy protection declarations, etc., etc. instead the domain is hidden behind a privacy protection organisation. Clear violation against all competition rules. In Europe this guy also would be in the risk to receive an expensive legal warning. Is he paying taxes at all properly for his enterprise?pdxindy wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:09 pmBut it is commercial software... but with some BS about calling it a 'donation'. In the US that would be illegal. If you call it a donation, it must be optional, not mandatory.gentleclockdivider wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:50 pm
It makes sense that he doesn't want to spend his time debugging stuff why it shouldn't work on certain systems , that's one of the reasons why it's not sold as commercial software .
It's a dishonest way to avoid the responsibility of selling a commercial product. I wonder if it is illegal in his country?
I hope for this guy, that he never faces any problems, because it's clear with common sense, that it's just a bigger hobby. But pretty thin ice though.
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grandmasterbird grandmasterbird https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=134988
- KVRist
- 433 posts since 7 Jan, 2007
Uhe Bazille?
Personally I’ve never committed to investing the time to learn it, but it sounds really good and the people who do invest the time seem to swear by it
Personally I’ve never committed to investing the time to learn it, but it sounds really good and the people who do invest the time seem to swear by it
- KVRAF
- 26941 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Best freakin synth ever!!!grandmasterbird wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:16 pm Uhe Bazille?
Personally I’ve never committed to investing the time to learn it, but it sounds really good and the people who do invest the time seem to swear by it
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grandmasterbird grandmasterbird https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=134988
- KVRist
- 433 posts since 7 Jan, 2007
When I demo’d it I felt like I had stumbled into a scientist’s laboratorypdxindy wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:17 pmBest freakin synth ever!!!grandmasterbird wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:16 pm Uhe Bazille?
Personally I’ve never committed to investing the time to learn it, but it sounds really good and the people who do invest the time seem to swear by it![]()
- KVRAF
- 26941 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Hehehe... first time I tried it I didn't know how to even make a sound at all...grandmasterbird wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:22 pmWhen I demo’d it I felt like I had stumbled into a scientist’s laboratorypdxindy wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:17 pmBest freakin synth ever!!!grandmasterbird wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:16 pm Uhe Bazille?
Personally I’ve never committed to investing the time to learn it, but it sounds really good and the people who do invest the time seem to swear by it![]()
not a clue what was going on! But I maintain it sounded great
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grandmasterbird grandmasterbird https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=134988
- KVRist
- 433 posts since 7 Jan, 2007
pdxindy wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:29 pmHehehe... first time I tried it I didn't know how to even make a sound at all...grandmasterbird wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:22 pmWhen I demo’d it I felt like I had stumbled into a scientist’s laboratorypdxindy wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:17 pmBest freakin synth ever!!!grandmasterbird wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:16 pm Uhe Bazille?
Personally I’ve never committed to investing the time to learn it, but it sounds really good and the people who do invest the time seem to swear by it![]()
not a clue what was going on! But I maintain it sounded great
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I say scientists lab but probably more in line with an old-style telephone exchange!
One day Bazille, one day…..
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- KVRAF
- 2296 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London
I still don't really "know" how to make a sound with it, I just patch things together and see what comes out at the endpdxindy wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:29 pm Hehehe... first time I tried it I didn't know how to even make a sound at all...![]()
Always Read the Manual!
- KVRAF
- 26941 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
At this point, I have an accurate idea of what it will sound like when I do some new patching... I've done a lot of sound design with Bazille!
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grandmasterbird grandmasterbird https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=134988
- KVRist
- 433 posts since 7 Jan, 2007
How long/how many hours did you have to spend with it to get to grips with it? Was there a lot of diving into the manual?pdxindy wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:38 pmAt this point, I have an accurate idea of what it will sound like when I do some new patching... I've done a lot of sound design with Bazille!
- KVRAF
- 26941 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
I don't know... the manual is helpful, but I mostly learned by trial and error. The cookbook is available these days and that's very useful. I've been using Bazille for years now. Competence kinda crept up on me.grandmasterbird wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:08 pmHow long/how many hours did you have to spend with it to get to grips with it? Was there a lot of diving into the manual?pdxindy wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:38 pmAt this point, I have an accurate idea of what it will sound like when I do some new patching... I've done a lot of sound design with Bazille!
It helps to have some familiarity with modular utilities. For example, when I first started using Bazille, I had not yet gotten into modular. I had no idea what lag generators were, or the rectifiers. The multiples were a big 'huh?'.
I kept going cause of the sound quality!
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grandmasterbird grandmasterbird https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=134988
- KVRist
- 433 posts since 7 Jan, 2007
I hear that, it’s the way it sounds and the potential for all manner of weird tones and textures that lures me in!pdxindy wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:29 pmI don't know... the manual is helpful, but I mostly learned by trial and error. The cookbook is available these days and that's very useful. I've been using Bazille for years now. Competence kinda crept up on me.grandmasterbird wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:08 pmHow long/how many hours did you have to spend with it to get to grips with it? Was there a lot of diving into the manual?pdxindy wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:38 pmAt this point, I have an accurate idea of what it will sound like when I do some new patching... I've done a lot of sound design with Bazille!
It helps to have some familiarity with modular utilities. For example, when I first started using Bazille, I had not yet gotten into modular. I had no idea what lag generators were, or the rectifiers. The multiples were a big 'huh?'.
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Maybe I’ll take the demo for another spin. Thanks
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- KVRian
- 1143 posts since 2 Oct, 2021
In my top 3. Crazy good.pdxindy wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:17 pmBest freakin synth ever!!!grandmasterbird wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:16 pm Uhe Bazille?
Personally I’ve never committed to investing the time to learn it, but it sounds really good and the people who do invest the time seem to swear by it![]()
BTW, there is a cool soundset + book by the awesome Howard Scarr about programming that thing.
In U-HE's own words:
The Bazille Cookbook
A 280+ patch soundset plus the ultimate compendium of Bazille knowledge, all cooked up and served hot by our very own Howard Scarr. Apart from describing techniques used in each and every patch in the soundset, the 118-page book (PDF) is also stuffed with interesting tips and little experiments. This combination of soundset and book should keep Bazille fans engaged and exploring for a very long time.
ABX is enemy to GAS
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- KVRAF
- 1637 posts since 28 Jul, 2006
Hey guys, let me tell you about this little synth called OPS7 which sounds awesome unlike the crappy F'em which sounds cheap. I feel like F'em is doing some weird, bad-sounding filtering of the high end probably to reduce aliasing and whatever it is they're doing makes the high end sound cheap and garbagey. OPS7 was made by someone who has ears or by someone who copied a design of someone else who has ears.
Bazille sounds good but also doesn't belong in a 2022 specific thread, like Tranzistow which sounds like a budget 90s PC sci fi game.
I'll probably re-mention how bad F'em sounds later. I might throw Tranzistow in there too since it keeps getting mentioned for no reason and doesn't sound particularly great (if you disagree please link me to all these awesome Tranzistow audio demos that definitely exist in real life).
Bazille sounds good but also doesn't belong in a 2022 specific thread, like Tranzistow which sounds like a budget 90s PC sci fi game.
I'll probably re-mention how bad F'em sounds later. I might throw Tranzistow in there too since it keeps getting mentioned for no reason and doesn't sound particularly great (if you disagree please link me to all these awesome Tranzistow audio demos that definitely exist in real life).
- KVRAF
- 26941 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
My reading of the original post was that the OP was looking for any good FM synth currently available in 2022... not specifically one newly released in 2022.briefcasemanx wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:25 am
Bazille sounds good but also doesn't belong in a 2022 specific thread
In that case Bazille qualifies! (Plus it's the best freakin synth ever!!)
