Image Line Acquires UVI

[zvenx]

That's a pretty dumb guess (and a wrong one), sorry.

Live has more userbase in the USA. FL in Europe and the rest of the world.

And I of course don't know for sure if this is what ED is basing it on, but he just might have access to the database of one of the biggest plugin developers or access to people who have seen that database.
So quantitative not qualitative.
rsp

[osiris]

I found this quote on the interweb:
The DAW that's getting the most use is difficult to measure. But if you check the popularity of purchases on Sweetwater you'll find that PreSonus Studio One Professional is the most popular followed by Ableton Live. If you switch to the Thomann music store in Europe then the most popular is FL Studio followed by Ableton Live.

[DJ Warmonger]

Oooh, big news! Does it mean I'll be able to play with UVI plugins without the iLok, which ImageLine plugins didn't use?

[EvilDragon]

Probably not, UVI continues to operate as they did so far.

[pdxindy]

That's a pretty dumb guess

Nothing could be as dumb as you.

[seangm]

The idea is just to keep on doing what we do while offering premium content to FL Studio users.

So does "offer premium content to FL Studio users" mean that there will be UVI releases that only run in FL studio? That would suck because I like UVI products but I'm happy as a pig in sh*t using Cubase and there's about 0% chance I will ever switch to FL Studio (or probably any other DAW). So I would miss out on some UVI releases because they are restricting them to FL Studio, unless I am misunderstanding what you mean by that.

[machinesworking]

That seems unlikely to me... My impression from looking at what evidence there is from the outside is that Ableton Live is the most used DAW.

No, Live is just more marketed. FL is the most widespread and most used DAW on the planet.

I'm going to state the obvious here. No one can actually know which DAW is the leader in individual sales. None of them publish their annual sales numbers per new customer VS upgrade, VS plug ins etc. Going off search engine results or one particular DAWs announced downloads isn't going to give you numbers on whether it's new sales, updates for existing customers etc. Beyond that it's pretty obvious that FL, Live, and Logic are the most consistently popular DAWs with Cubase, Pro Tools, Reaper and Studio One somewhere at the end of that mix.

Anecdotally Live would be far ahead the #1 DAW going off people I know who use the things, with Reaper right behind. I've only met one FL Studio user.

[EvilDragon]

That's a pretty dumb guess

Nothing could be as dumb as you.

<Insert yo momma joke here>

[pdxindy]

Beyond that it's pretty obvious that FL, Live, and Logic are the most consistently popular DAWs with Cubase, Pro Tools, Reaper and Studio One somewhere at the end of that mix.

Anecdotally Live would be far ahead the #1 DAW going off people I know who use the things, with Reaper right behind. I've only met one FL Studio user.

Garageband is likely the most widely installed...

[pdxindy]

That's a pretty dumb guess

Nothing could be as dumb as you.

<Insert yo momma joke here>

Oh yeah?!?! Must be something about worms

[machinesworking]

Gol decided once to not go the Midi route (what made sense back in the days as Midi was always a very weak and wonky thingy), so deep in the code of FLS there are many parts not working the way an implementation of something like MPE would require...

And therein lies the reason why FL Studio does not get considered a professional DAW by a lot of people. When it's competition started out as MIDI sequencers, FL and it's users were basically acting like MIDI was a "weak and wonky thingy" while step inputing electronic dance music into a DAW called Fruity Loops. Meanwhile people were writing full orchestral scores in DP, Cubase and Logic.

I never disregarded FL Studio, but it was patently obvious why people would, considering it's beginnings, it's single OS, tracker legacy, and the fact that it's users would do things like discount MIDI because they couldn't figure out how to get a stable MIDI environment going, and their DAW wasn't that good at it in the first place.

[machinesworking]

Garageband is likely the most widely installed...

Sure, but it's not a paid DAW, there's no way to tally if people use it or not, and it's still only going to be on 10% of the possible market since it's OS specific to Mac.

FL IMO are inflating their market share by including people who download their DAW to use with cracked serials etc. I don't blame them, but IMO the discussion about whether Fruity Loops is the most popular DAW is flawed from the start because hardly any DAW developer publishes their individual owner sales numbers.

[otristan]

The idea is just to keep on doing what we do while offering premium content to FL Studio users.

So does "offer premium content to FL Studio users" mean that there will be UVI releases that only run in FL studio? That would suck because I like UVI products but I'm happy as a pig in sh*t using Cubase and there's about 0% chance I will ever switch to FL Studio (or probably any other DAW). So I would miss out on some UVI releases because they are restricting them to FL Studio, unless I am misunderstanding what you mean by that.

Premium just means good sounding content

[SpankyGoalie]

but I know about 50 musicians

You are forgetting the hobbyists that make music far outnumber musicians. FL Studio is huge user base.

[pdxindy]

Garageband is likely the most widely installed...

Sure, but it's not a paid DAW, there's no way to tally if people use it or not, and it's still only going to be on 10% of the possible market since it's OS specific to Mac.

Garageband is on iOS too... which is a huge market...