So, with it's release, is SynthMaster 3 the new reigning Super Synth?
- KVRAF
- 1577 posts since 20 May, 2002 from Cambridge, UK
Synthmaster is certainly very powerful and great value, however the GUI is not very intuitive and I tend to avoid using it as a result. It seems to take forever clicking around to do what you want if you haven't actually made a point of studying it diligently. Also most of the presets have loads of detune and reverb effects which I don't find at all useful or inspiring for my music. Synthmaster one on the other hand I find much more useful and easier to use. I only recently got around to playing with it and am surprised I overlooked it for so long
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- KVRAF
- 7503 posts since 14 Nov, 2006 from Ankara, Turkey
Are you referrring to SynthMaster 2 or SynthMaster 3? Which action, for instance, takes forever clicking around? Could you please give an example ?Jbravo wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 4:21 pm It seems to take forever clicking around to do what you want if you haven't actually made a point of studying it diligently. Also most of the presets have loads of detune and reverb effects which I don't find at all useful or inspiring for my music.
Are you sure you checked out the new SynthMaster 3 presets? When you switch to the preset browser tab, please make sure you filter by SynthMaster 3 presets:Jbravo wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 4:21 pm Also most of the presets have loads of detune and reverb effects which I don't find at all useful or inspiring for my music.
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- KVRAF
- 2287 posts since 2 Jul, 2007
SynthMaster 3 updated to version 3.0.4
When user moves mouse over a synth module tab, tooltip now displays the name and type of module
SynthMaster 3 presets can now be loaded into layers
Added single wav/aif file drag-n-drop support for wavetable display
Added preset file drag-n-drop support for preset dropdown control
Modulation source names can now be edited by double clicking on the modulation source name
When changing discrete values with mouse wheel, the values are now clipped instead of wrapped around when they reach min/max values
SynthMaster 3 now reads the "natural" trackpad scroll setting on MacOS
Added new "Show" icon/menu for modules tab control
Added horizontal mouse scroll wheel support for sample regions view
Added "chromatic" and "same key" import types for the sample regions view to import samples without root key/velocity information
When user moves mouse over a synth module tab, tooltip now displays the name and type of module
SynthMaster 3 presets can now be loaded into layers
Added single wav/aif file drag-n-drop support for wavetable display
Added preset file drag-n-drop support for preset dropdown control
Modulation source names can now be edited by double clicking on the modulation source name
When changing discrete values with mouse wheel, the values are now clipped instead of wrapped around when they reach min/max values
SynthMaster 3 now reads the "natural" trackpad scroll setting on MacOS
Added new "Show" icon/menu for modules tab control
Added horizontal mouse scroll wheel support for sample regions view
Added "chromatic" and "same key" import types for the sample regions view to import samples without root key/velocity information
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PEDALS: Chase Bliss Mood MK II
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- KVRian
- 898 posts since 5 Jun, 2001
really great to see i can now load synthmaster 1, 2 and 3 presets into layers, and also the presets i've made myself, Synthmaster rules. cheers Bülent 
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- KVRAF
- 3153 posts since 10 Jan, 2005
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- KVRian
- 1407 posts since 1 Jul, 2023
It's an amazing synth which takes some getting used to. I think I'd find the UX frustrating if I wasn't 'fluent' in Falcon. Clickery and menu diving is something I can deal with. I still don't feel like the current iteration is stable enough for me to use, so I've reinstalled Phase Plant and will probably just use that instead.
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- KVRian
- 784 posts since 3 Apr, 2013 from Belgium
I love SM3 so far, but I can't figure how to use properly the VA Analog oscs... I watched an official video, but I guesss I missed something, can't seems to load factory waveforms... maybe I should RTFM
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- KVRAF
- 7503 posts since 14 Nov, 2006 from Ankara, Turkey
Are you referring to the drill down menus to select waveforms / wavetables / samples ?
I am planning to add a browser window to make that workflow easier.
Also, to make it easier to navigate between tabs (synth modules / modulation sources), I added a "Show" icon to easily select the tab you'd want to switch to:
Cheers
Bulent
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- KVRAF
- 1659 posts since 13 Jan, 2014
I was really looking forward to the loading of presets into layers but so far I mostly failed.
Logic for me would be:
- loading a preset
- adding a layer
- opening the browser, preview a sound I like, right mouse button, load into layer 2
Mostly for me that leads preset one in layer one been overwritten from preset 2
I dont know if my logic is wrong or whatever but would be great to have an explanation (short video ?) for it.
Logic for me would be:
- loading a preset
- adding a layer
- opening the browser, preview a sound I like, right mouse button, load into layer 2
Mostly for me that leads preset one in layer one been overwritten from preset 2
I dont know if my logic is wrong or whatever but would be great to have an explanation (short video ?) for it.
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- KVRAF
- 7503 posts since 14 Nov, 2006 from Ankara, Turkey
I will look into the workflow you described, but just try loading the preset into a new layer instead:tatanka wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:57 am I dont know if my logic is wrong or whatever but would be great to have an explanation (short video ?) for it.
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- KVRAF
- 1659 posts since 13 Jan, 2014
Thanks, would be great if you could look into it, I just dont find a way working 100 %, not sure if its my mistake. I have tried the "new layer" too but mostly it just overwrites the existing layer.kv331 wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:07 amI will look into the workflow you described, but just try loading the preset into a new layer instead:tatanka wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:57 am I dont know if my logic is wrong or whatever but would be great to have an explanation (short video ?) for it.
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- KVRAF
- 7503 posts since 14 Nov, 2006 from Ankara, Turkey
Here's how you can load preset for the VAnalog osc:Davias wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:50 am I love SM3 so far, but I can't figure how to use properly the VA Analog oscs... I watched an official video, but I guesss I missed something, can't seems to load factory waveforms... maybe I should RTFM
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- KVRian
- 784 posts since 3 Apr, 2013 from Belgium
Thanks for your answer, sadly when i do that the waveforms aren't changing. Tested on win 10 with reason 12kv331 wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:25 amHere's how you can load preset for the VAnalog osc:Davias wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:50 am I love SM3 so far, but I can't figure how to use properly the VA Analog oscs... I watched an official video, but I guesss I missed something, can't seems to load factory waveforms... maybe I should RTFM
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- KVRAF
- 7503 posts since 14 Nov, 2006 from Ankara, Turkey
I am addressing this issue by adding a new resource browser to find/load/favorite waveforms/wavetables/samples/multisamples. Default Saw and Saw are different as you pointed out. When I first released SynthMaster 2.5, the default saw/tri/sqr waveforms were samples from DSI Mopho synth, and there are thousands of presets that use default waveforms. So I didn't touch them. But you don't have to use them, yo can just switch to Square/Saw Up/Saw Down/Triangle which are ideal bandlimited waveforms:chagzuki wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:18 pm I've played with it a bit and generally agree with billinder33, I had a similar experience with tab navigation and routing. And also had some confusion with the basic osc menu, having to go through three sub folders to get to the standard basic types, with initial ones apparently not standard square/saw etc. I still feel like I must be missing something.
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- KVRAF
- 7503 posts since 14 Nov, 2006 from Ankara, Turkey
I think you are referring to SynthMaster 2, which is the older version of SynthMaster 3. Have you checked out version 3 yet?Jbravo wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 4:21 pm Synthmaster is certainly very powerful and great value, however the GUI is not very intuitive and I tend to avoid using it as a result. It seems to take forever clicking around to do what you want if you haven't actually made a point of studying it diligently.
I still couldn't get an answer to my question. which action takes forever clicking ? like cycling through waveforms/wavetables/samples? I am addressing this issue in our upcoming 3.1 update:
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