Let‘s speculate about 6.0

[pdxindy]

5.3 is out now. The beta phase took quite a long time—almost 3 months.
The reason it took so long might be that they needed their resources for Bitwig 6.

The reason the beta period was longer is because the changes to the audio system took time to iron out.

[Zikax]

5.3 is out now. The beta phase took quite a long time—almost 3 months.
The reason it took so long might be that they needed their resources for Bitwig 6.

The reason the beta period was longer is because the changes to the audio system took time to iron out.

I can definitely agree that it took a lot of time. For me, beta 4 was already running well enough. They could have released 5.3 back in January and patched it gradually afterward.

I always assume that we get three updates within about 12 months. The 5.3 beta came out in November, so Bitwig 6 could be released in April. It wouldn’t be the first time that the next beta came out just 2 to 3 months after the end of a previous beta phase.

[pdxindy]

I can definitely agree that it took a lot of time. For me, beta 4 was already running well enough. They could have released 5.3 back in January and patched it gradually afterward.

When they are still changing how something works, releasing it and patching it afterwards is problematic because that can break users projects/templates/presets created in the interim.

[Zikax]

I can definitely agree that it took a lot of time. For me, beta 4 was already running well enough. They could have released 5.3 back in January and patched it gradually afterward.

When they are still changing how something works, releasing it and patching it afterwards is problematic because that can break users projects/templates/presets created in the interim.

The risk is always there; even after a beta phase, there’s no guarantee that everything will run smoothly. It depends on your system. That’s why they released the 5.3.1 patch just one week later.

[BazJacuzzi]

At this point, I'd be happy if 6 just fixed the bugs.

[questionaire]

At this point, I'd be happy if 6 just fixed the bugs.

Half year ago i raised a ticket for the Launchkey controller not working right with the native script still not repaired untill now.

Other then repairing bugs i would be happy to see slicing/warping in the sampler as said by others and me already. And the new drum devices consume way too much cpu that should be solved aswell. It is crazy how new drum machine presets suck the life out of my labtop.

[questionaire]

Double post

[Hanz Meyzer]

Transparent clips in the arranger and maybe even notes in the pianoroll would be amazing. Maybe easy to add, too.

[Tj Shredder]

Version 6 will have milestones. Either Midi 2.0 support or encapsulation with GUI elements in the Grid and Grid GUIs for the device panel.

[vroteg]

That feeling when you realize that Ableton has more releases per year—and generally more useful ones—than Bitwig, despite the promise that a subscription (!) plan would boost the number of updates. And despite Bitwig crowning itself as the most innovative DAW. Shame…

[Trancit]

That feeling when you realize that Ableton has more releases per year—and generally more useful ones—than Bitwig, despite the promise that a subscription (!) plan would boost the number of updates. And despite Bitwig crowning itself as the most innovative DAW. Shame…

Very true...
Since V12 AL wipes completely the floor with Bitwig... a single point update feels containing a lot better stuff than the last 10 Bitwig upates together...

I think the Bitwigs must be very careful if they can allow their own "nerdiness" for the future updates ... many former AL > now Bitwig users will switch back the more they come up with such great stuff.
If they continue with their BS updates mainly for Modular lovers, they will force a lot of people to jump train (again).

[ere2learn]

Nice features you got over there

Bounce to New Track
Vowel/Comb Filter
Chord Device

Only took 23 years, their is hope for bitwig

[coroknight]

I can definitely agree that it took a lot of time. For me, beta 4 was already running well enough. They could have released 5.3 back in January and patched it gradually afterward.

When they are still changing how something works, releasing it and patching it afterwards is problematic because that can break users projects/templates/presets created in the interim.

The risk is always there; even after a beta phase, there’s no guarantee that everything will run smoothly. It depends on your system. That’s why they released the 5.3.1 patch just one week later.

Are you seriously arguing that they should be releasing known buggy software?

[coroknight]

Nice features you got over there

Bounce to New Track
Vowel/Comb Filter
Chord Device

Only took 23 years, their is hope for bitwig

Don’t forget Ableton adding more modulators to existing devices which bitwig doesn’t need because the modulator system works everywhere.

[vroteg]

Very true...
Since V12 AL wipes completely the floor with Bitwig... a single point update feels containing a lot better stuff than the last 10 Bitwig upates together...

I think the Bitwigs must be very careful if they can allow their own "nerdiness" for the future updates ... many former AL > now Bitwig users will switch back the more they come up with such great stuff.
If they continue with their BS updates mainly for Modular lovers, they will force a lot of people to jump train (again).

The only thing keeping me from switching and saying farewell to this program is MIDI post-instrument. If Ableton introduced MIDI Sidechain (SC) input on all devices—like they’ve already started doing for some—I’d jump ship without thinking twice. I even bought a license and tried to switch, but this little feature is too crucial for me. I’m aware of some M4L devices that can handle this, but they can be a bit buggy at times.

Otherwise, Ableton is leading the way right now, while Bitwig is dragging behind with its head down.

And you’re right—if they keep up the “we only do what we want” mantra, they’ll eventually be left with just a handful of die-hard users… or as I call them, fanatics.