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Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:41 pm

Well, it's really just binary data put into a text format. Nothing devilish hidden there.

Apart from waveforms, module orders and such it also contains the last known preset filename and path, strings of customized labels (see Presswerk label, Satin Group names) and probably some things I just forgot.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:43 pm

dumbledog wrote:
Urs wrote: Well, that's only necessary for the order of effects in Hive. I think. If there's always just the same two, with the Chorus on or off, it should do the trick.
Snap, okay.

Sadly Korg's patches are all binary data and can't do this. Arturia's patch formats and folder structures are weird but nobody likes their patches anyway so eh.

Well, you could customize any open source VST host to read out automatable parameters...

(we've tinkered with the idea, but scrapped it for ethical reasons)

R.A.W. · Post by **R.A.W.** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:56 pm

--= Ju =-- wrote:
Urs wrote:
--= Ju =-- wrote:Both this and Presswerk crash as soon as I load them in EnergyXT 2.7 on Win8.1 64bit.

Anyone else get the same?

Regards.
This sounds like an old bug has found its way back. Does it work in any other host for you?

Hi,

Yes, they both work without a problem in Bitwig studio. Both crash upon load on both my desktop and laptop (both win 8.1 64bit)

Regards.

I checked out Hive just yesterday and had the same issue (also with Presswerk). The 32bit version crashes energyXT 2.7 while it works in Live 9, IL Minihost and Cantabile Lite.
Btw. I also tried to jBridge the 64bit version to use it in energyXT, but it crashed while jBridge analysed it.

I'm on Win7 x64 btw.

GeorgeZ · Post by **GeorgeZ** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:36 pm

dumbledog wrote:
Urs wrote: Well, that's only necessary for the order of effects in Hive. I think. If there's always just the same two, with the Chorus on or off, it should do the trick.
Arturia's patch formats and folder structures are weird but nobody likes their patches anyway so eh.

True dat

EDIT: Mind, there's some ok-ish ones in the minimoog V

dumbledog · Post by **dumbledog** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:18 pm

(Really I shouldn't say that too loud, there are some Howie patches in the CS-80 and I think Prophet...)

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:42 pm

dumbledog wrote:(Really I shouldn't say that too loud, there are some Howie patches in the CS-80 and I think Prophet...)

And now we have to cope with The Grump

chokehold · Post by **chokehold** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:50 pm

Urs wrote:And now we have to cope with The Grump

Swings and roundabouts.

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:00 am

Urs wrote:And now we have to cope with The Grump

BTW praise is useless, only critique helps.

GeorgeZ · Post by **GeorgeZ** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:12 am

Howard wrote:
Urs wrote:And now we have to cope with The Grump

BTW praise is useless, only critique helps.

Lejurai · Post by **Lejurai** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:46 am

Have one wish for hive. Since my workflow occasionally is around sequencer, it'd be nice if hive had at least 32 steps at it's seq. Also possibility to have like 4 pattern pages (at least 2) that could be changed with automation would be super (for variation.. Of course one can use many synths). Morphable patterns like bazille has? :> Would make me very happy

Halma · Post by **Halma** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:08 pm

Wow. What an amazing synth. Sound/CPU ratio is pretty badass even with Unison & 16 voices enabled. Normal/Dirty mode ...

... *breathtaking*. Not that much difference between dirty & clean for me (soundwise but maybe later with different sounds).

Brilliant overall synth design. Less is more. A workhorse synth par excellence. Very "hardware like" (where "parts" are money).

I am usually not in "Fanboy mode" but the design choices you made are more or less perfect!!!

Pretty speechless right now...

Reminds me a little bit on your comment about Sylenth1 ("limited" overall design but perfectly chosen).

Cheers
Sebastian

adam_rodz · Post by **adam_rodz** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:01 pm

Hi guys,im wondering if you can help - ive just gone to install Hive on my mac and it fails saying 'the installer could not install some files : Library/Audio/Plug-ins/Components''

Anyone know why this is?

geronimo · Post by **geronimo** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:17 pm

Would not you take the PC version

Yeager · Post by **Yeager** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:52 pm

Is there a way to reset the sequencer at "note off" , right now it stops and takes of at that point when another note is played.

EDIT : when using midi !! , it works when playing the keyboard. ( as long as the DAW is not playing

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dumbledog · Post by **dumbledog** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:22 am

U-NO-LX conversion project status: spent forever yesterday analyzing how keyfollow works on the two synths, which is something where I've never really grasped how exactly it works for values other than 0 and 100.

It's interesting seeing the different design philosophies in the two synths. TAL has a bunch of idiosyncrasies when it comes to sliders as he was trying to replicate his old hardware. The keyfollow for example really only has a range of 0-91% or so, after which it's taken as 100%. Before that it's still not what's written to the patch but off by a percentage varying by the slider value itself. (The error curve is an inverted parabola but that's neither here nor there).

Hive in contrast isn't bound to old hardware and so uses a simpler ideal formula. Was a real eureka moment when I cracked that one.

So far static sounds sound pretty close on both synths. TAL uses some sort of keyfollow for the volume which I can't quite replicate in Hive but it's close enough that I can't tell the difference when I'm panning the voices.

Need to recalibrate the filter equation tonight, and hopefully I can get the ADSRs as well as most of the groundwork there was already done in that excel spreadsheet I posted a while back.

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