Valhalla vintage verb and pro R2.comfortablynick wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:45 pmIn my opinion, LiquidSonics and Valhalla are leaders in the reverb sector today, but they didn't even exist when this thread was started! I'd add Relab to the list too. Lexicon was a couple of years from releasing their native plugins (before seemingly abandoning them 10 years later). It's amazing how much better reverbs have gotten in the last 15 or so years, even though there were some decent ones back then too.
Best reverbs !?
- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
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- KVRian
- 1408 posts since 1 Jul, 2023
I think you're right. So clean. It encourages me to make otherworldly stuff more than actual real space emulation but that's a good thing.
Polyverse Comet is great as well- can get some very strange sounds via the preset Morph function, but its quite high CPU.
Tbh, my fave would be Valhalla Room. It's nice and transparent, versatile and really easy to shape. Very efficient as well. For a more washy noisy reverb, Valhalla Vintage is nice or Arturia's LX24 but the latter is just too heavy for me to throw around too liberally.
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 18005 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
They're all good, and any one of them could qualify as someone's best.
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concealed identity concealed identity https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=215821
- KVRian
- 1062 posts since 21 Sep, 2009
It really is pretty crazy when you think about it. I remember switching from Reason to Cubase around 2008~2009 or so, and just not being able to find a reverb VST I liked remotely as much as the Reason Advanced Reverb unit. For YEARS I tried out different ones, bouncing around between the free and cheaper ones that I could get satisfactory sounds from, but was never really satisfied.comfortablynick wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:45 pm It's amazing how much better reverbs have gotten in the last 15 or so years, even though there were some decent ones back then too.
Fast forward to now, where I have a ton of great reverbs I've bought for a fraction of those prices, and a ton of great reverbs that are completely free- Raum, epicPLATE and epicCLOUDS, OrilRiver, Spacer, OldSkoolVerb, Solaris, TENSjr, TAL Reverb 4, etc. all hold their own against the paid reverbs as far as sound quality goes imo.
I know we're not supposed to blame our tools, but I really feel like the quality of plugins in general is so much better these days. Even free ones made by small or solo developers require SO much less wrangling and fiddling to sound good than what was around 15 years ago.
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- KVRian
- 998 posts since 31 Oct, 2020
I am not a fan of Valhalla reverbs myself but calling Sean Costello an amateur software developer on KVR is like wearing a West Ham shirt at Millwall. It’s instant suicide, man 
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- KVRAF
- 2509 posts since 24 Jul, 2017
There are lots of good solutions around, eg. MTurboReverb which gives me solutions for almost every standard reverb task. Vojtech should chime in...audiouser720 wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 3:35 pm I am not a fan of Valhalla reverbs myself but calling Sean Costello an amateur software developer on KVR is like wearing a West Ham shirt at Millwall. It’s instant suicide, man![]()
- KVRAF
- 1583 posts since 26 Aug, 2019
Does this technique actually provide meaningful insights into reverb tails?geroi99 wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:33 pm Study tails for artifacts using stacatto notes of saw waves to determine flaws of reverbs.
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 2496 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
It does for me. You want the original sound very short and somewhat percussive so you can focus on hearing what the reverb is doing based either on making adjustments to it or comparing side by side with one or more other reverbs.
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- KVRist
- 104 posts since 15 Feb, 2024
Strong words for a 1 day old.geroi99 wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:33 pm Guys from oldschooldaw.com would disagree with you strongly. And they would be right. Because if reverb can't emulate real spaces it can't emulate anything because it means it can't create normal early reflections. Super clean tails already were in vss4 algo in 90s. Just turn off early for tail. Even vss3 had super clean tail. Those answers do not describe technical terms but look like amateurs' discussion what they like to do on sundays. The word 'clean' does not describe anything. There is parameter c80 describing reverb's denseness or how much it enfogs the dry sound and this parameter is usually the diffusion knob. Reverbs with higher c80 are more transparent. That parameter can be measured by vst plugin analyzer. What really makes a reverb outstanding is its ability to generate early reflections to shape the landscape,not just giving dumb tail with high c80. Tail itself can be made more transparent by less wetness vs dry signal. More impotant is degree of flutter echo and grainyness in tail. Grainyness can be supressed by shorter rt60 for highs but flutter echo cannot and it discloses if the given algorithm is good or bad. The highly promoted orilriver is worse than free kr-reverb fs for those 2 parameters and as i have said pantheon has no flutter echo and grainyness totally. Vss3 supports presets from tc m4000. There you may find some presets that sound like adaptiverb's capability to turn sound into dreamy pads i.e. vss3 and vss4 can produce not only real spaces but also those cheap synthetic long tails from valhalla like plugins but with much higher quality and much more subtle tuning features and it dates back to 90s. Forthat reason the guy above could not find replacement for old cubase reverb. Study tails for artifacts using stacatto notes of saw waves to determine flaws of reverbs. I totally reject plugins like valhalla,voxengo and other cheap promoted in every pub stuff. Those are amateur programmers without long standing experience and secrets that corporations like tc have had. All they can do is trying their best to fight against metallicity in reverbs i.e. solving some primitive first order tasks as they have no understanding for more harder to figure out things which are knowhow inside corporations and were handed down from fathers to children. For that reason most free or cheap stuff is low quality including infamouse freeverb2 from dreampoint from 2000 which was claimed to be first free pro quality reverb but it has never been such.
- KVRian
- 1424 posts since 15 Nov, 2005 from Italy
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- KVRist
- 375 posts since 17 Nov, 2022
I find myself coming back to u-he's Protoverb quite often.
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 18005 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Which pub?geroi99 wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:33 pmI totally reject plugins like valhalla,voxengo and other cheap promoted in every pub stuff.
- KVRAF
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
FTFYgeroi99 wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:33 pm I totally reject plugins in … pubic stuff. Those are amateur … without long standing experience …
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