T3 - AES New Feature Preview

[koolkeys]

Wow, while typing that message, eight more people responded! Too fast!

Brent

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[Mr. Tingle]

By the way ttoz, for the abrupt cutoff of reverb and such on per clip FX, you can avoid it without rendering. Just select the clip and go to the properties and change the "end" time to a later time. It will extend the clip and the effects won't cut off.

Good tip!

[Daniel78]

I'm still using T1.6 - I told myself as soon as aftertouch support* was added i'd upgrade to T2 - this is my only real complaint with 1.6! - but it never happened. I just hope its in now (Still mystifies me why its not there already...), becuase T3 looks really cool, and i wouldn't want to skip another whole generation of tracktion

*channel or polyphonic, i don't care which

[original flipper]

HI

As this thread is being monitored by the powers that be, I will throw in my 10 cents:

I have a dual CPU DAW and would like the feature sooner than later, but this is not some selfish request - the market place is increasingly selling dual core as a standard system component within mid price point set-ups - so you (and others) really need to catch up on this base feature.

Dual monitor support: another increasingly standard component of many set-ups - is there any plan to work with this extended workspace, beyond the simple 'stretch it accross 2 monitor trick?'

My main concern and something I and many others have constantly requested is improvements to the piano-roll, both the size available (full screen is preferable, a fully detachable piano-roll is even more desirable and usefull in view of mult-monitor usage) and the overal 'tacky' nature of the tool bar and navigational shortcomings of the editor.

Did I read that the GUI information area at the base of the GUI would be resizable?

I don't think that in itself is going to solve the issue's that people have with the current piano-roll.

Hope this doesn't sound like a load of whining - if there is still 3 months of development to go, then who knows!

Flipper.

[rockstar_not]

Beno,

Thanks for posting this.

I like the global and marker track lanes idea (I remember it being suggested and piling on the thread a year or so ago).

Loops - with proper time stretch

folder clips and such:

etc.

Just wondering about the upgrade price now. Since I've had so much joy with the boxed plugins that came with boxed T2, I'm curious what upgrade schemes will exist and hoping for the best for my European T comrades.

-Scott

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[gmore]

So in the current beta we have done some CPU optimizations, especially on Mac. Screen redraw and meters are much better. But we have not yet added true dual proc/core support. This is obviously something we want to add sooner rather than later; it just hasn't been done yet. But I just talked to our developer and we will be looking into it in the very near future for T3 since we are still a little ways off from our release plan of early next year at NAMM. The feedback from this thread has really helped us to see how important a feature that is for our user base and we will do our best to get it into T3 at its initial release. I'll of course keep you posted.
Ben

Also glad to hear. Don't necessarily need multi-core support now (although it be nice), T2 is already cpu freindly - just good to know that you're working towards it. It had been mentioned in another topic that given your method of coding, multi-core support might not be possible.
Glad to know that it will eventually come, and that Tracktion is a good long term investment of my time.
Thanks for all the info.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[Lunch Money]

ttoz, I agree that sometimes text does not properly convey intention. And since you've clarified, my furious rage has dissipated. However, my turn to be pedantic-- you CAN convey emotion and intention through nothing more than the written word. That's how writers do what they do. I'm just glad to be wrong this time.

[koolkeys]

Beno has already stated that they are going to try and get multi cpu support in the initial release. What more can he do? I know people keep complaining about it. But he's already talked about it, and I think it was a good, honest statement.

He GETS THE POINT, is my point. Just saying, that's all.

Brent

[semiquaver]

wahtever more there may be to hope for a few crucial points stand out.

A) T3 is a significant upgrade - not just window dressing - imo worth paying for

B) Posters here at KVR have had an impact from what I can tell - Mackie has listened. for me that means:

C) I can relax somewhat knowing that the platform is living on and thriving in Mackieland.

If only I didn't have to wait 3 months to get my hands on it as I have unworkably slow edits (due to mac gui problems)) right now and would love to work on them.

Hey Beno is there any way I could get my hands on a beta version - please please? -- I'd be happy to pay an upgrade fee now! (I realize this is unlikely but I thought I would ask anyhow!)) thankx...

[Beno]

so is T3 simply going to support acid and other formats? in other words, will i be able to record my own drum/perc beats, synth arpegg/etc and do something similar, is that something T3 will analyze and then i'd hve those changeable loops, or would that require acid or similar in addition?

Yes, you can record/create your own loops. T3 can analyze them or you can manually mark beats. You can then have them follow tempo/pitch changes and make them available for searching so you can use them in other Tracktion projects.

Ben

so is there preview in tempo from the loop browser??

Yes for acid, apple, apple, and custom (loops you create and add to Tracktion's browser). At this point, all others (mp3, ogg, standard wav/aif) will previewed without Pitch Shift/Time Stretch.

Ben

[gmore]

WOW do you have a link so i can read this? I am curious, even though it is obviously not true now.

I believe 4th or 5th page in the 1st T3 video post, but the poster mentioned that he wasn't certain and corrected later on.
Given that I know less than zero about coding, programming, etc, and have regretted investing money and especially time in things that were quickly dated (list is too long), had to be sure I wasn't doing the same here - and I've been investing a whole lotta time in T2 lately.
NTM, Protools was shoved my way from all angles before I committed to T2 - no regrets here.

[tomg]

I've got a feeling that me and T2 are going to part ways for good after I find out they didn't do anything about the crap midi and there's still no way to insert a "filter" between the input and track.

It looks like they've given up on making a great sequencer and entered the Acid wannabe camp. I've had this damn thing for 3 years and I've never done one song with it. I might even sell it for $1 'cause that's about all I think it's worth. I've had eXT for less than 6 months and I've got 14 or 15 complete tunes.

Everytime I sit down with eXT I leave with something I want to keep. I can't say that about anything else. Cubase used to crash and take my music with it. Then I'd just shut down the computer and leave dejected and empty handed. Tracksion has been even worse because I can't get anything done at all with it. It might be great for recording bands and now the Acid kiddies but that ain't me.

Every now and then I use it to assemble and normalize wave files into a soundtrack but I've got Audition and really wouldn't care if T2 went away altogether. I don't even have it installed anymore. My advice is spend your money somewhere else. Mackie doesn't care or midi would have been fixed years ago. I'm a little bitter about this and I'm not all that happy with Steinberg either but Cubase is out of my life. I still have T2 for the time being.