Izotope buys BT's Sonik Architects (Stutter Edit now Released!)

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Here is a demo for the Sci-Fi World Set processing a drone and pad sound with some snaps from this new Set.

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Must say that I am a fan and am seriously thinking of buying it. Really really usable and sounds great.

I hope it's ok if I chime in on some of the negatives from my end, perhaps the feedback might be helpful:

- I do agree with everyone on the pricing front, $249 is really steep. I'm only considering it due to the $149 discount. I would of thought that the plugin would be sold at around $149 normally, max $199.
- In regards to the interface I do find certain aspects a little unclear. For example, it seems that certain modules won't function unless stutter is turned on. If this were the case, then those modules should not be selectable while stutter is off.
- I also found the interface a little too large, I suppose I notice this with my 1280x720 resolution (bad eyes).
- I notice a lack of resonance knob on the master filter, why is this? The resonance is too high by default?
- It seems that the plugin hogs keyboard focus in Cubase 4 here ... which means I can't use my regular shortcuts in Cubase while the plugin is in focus
- Finally, it seems that the only way to get visual indication of your entire patch is to open up the patch browser, would of been nice if this were better integrated in the plugin window somehow ... I suppose that would only make it bigger

Anyways, still love it, nice work! And much respect and love to BT, I've ben a fan for a long time and continue to be amazed by his work.

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i am glad it is so ludicrously priced, being as i have other things to buy..not even gonna try the demo....what a shame

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218 wrote:Great plugin Izotope, very high quality, but would be even higher if it was possible to automate in your host!
At the risk of repeating myself: why the hell would you want to? Use <insert generic effect here> for that. Is it so hard to press a goddamn button? If you don't like that, just use teh frikkin piano roll. Sheesh.

Gee, I like my car a lot, but I wish it could iron my shirts, as well. -1 for my car. :roll:

Rant over. Apologies to all, may you live in blessed harmony and peace forever. :P

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218 wrote:would be even higher if it was possible to automate in your host!
+1

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P.S.: There's also another bug when you choose the init <Empty> preset. Even though stutter is enabled it doesn't work. The only way to get it working is to disable it, click another key, click the same key again and the re-enable it.

Anyone able to repro this?

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ebow wrote:i am glad it is so ludicrously priced, being as i have other things to buy..not even gonna try the demo....what a shame
likewise. It's almost like they are targetting professionals...:hihi:

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CypherOne wrote:
ebow wrote:i am glad it is so ludicrously priced, being as i have other things to buy..not even gonna try the demo....what a shame
likewise. It\'s almost like they are targetting professionals...:hihi:
if i were a dj, i would probably be all over it...as it is, the effects seem far too obvious to make it into my recording work...i would imagine it providing good fodder for cutting up and rearranging in more subtle and effective ways, but then that defeats the whole purpose of the plug

still $100 too expensive, imho

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+1
218 wrote:Great plugin Izotope, very high quality, but would be even higher if it was possible to automate in your host!

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5 minute video quickly going thru a few StutterEdit presets by Richard Devine:

:shock: http://www.vimeo.com/18905925 :shock:
Going through a couple of my gesture variations for the Stutter Edit plug-in. Using only one instance for this example and processing a single drum loop with no other plug-ins. The gesture effects are triggered by a M-Audio Oxygen-8 MIDI keyboard while changing to different banks in real-time.

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218 wrote:Great plugin Izotope, very high quality, but would be even higher if it was possible to automate in your host!
+1000
I can't believe not a single control is automatable. Not even the master filter. No automation, no mapping the parameters to Kore controls or automap or any Native host mapping. No hardware control. Yay mouse. I wrote an email to support asking if this would be addressed. They said no plans to add automation support.
ariston wrote:
218 wrote:Great plugin Izotope, very high quality, but would be even higher if it was possible to automate in your host!
At the risk of repeating myself: why the hell would you want to? Use <insert generic effect here> for that. Is it so hard to press a goddamn button? If you don't like that, just use teh frikkin piano roll. Sheesh.

Gee, I like my car a lot, but I wish it could iron my shirts, as well. -1 for my car. :roll:

Rant over. Apologies to all, may you live in blessed harmony and peace forever. :P
No it's not hard to hit a single key. But you also can't adjust the settings like speed and filter by hardware control or make any automation outside of what's written into that specific preset. Ever watched any videos of people using the finger or Artillery etc.? Half the fun is not just pressing a button but also tweaking controls live as well. It's cool and all that automation can be written into each preset, but common, how in 2011 is it not possible to control these parameters with hardware or host automation. It's ridiculous if you ask me.

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exactly
id like to activate the scene(btw, 2 bars, seriously, my ER1 does 4) but grab lets say the buffer position(especially lol) and manipulate it with all other blocks continuing their automated scene(or be frozen, user choice) (i know we can use the mod, but it moves ALL parameters, i dislike that)

it wouldnt be hard to let us the choice of automation by host (or even midi CC(s) for each module parameter(s))
one doesnt exclude the other
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ariston wrote:
218 wrote:Great plugin Izotope, very high quality, but would be even higher if it was possible to automate in your host!
At the risk of repeating myself: why the hell would you want to?
Because it would give you control over the individual parameters within each module. That's not the same as using the piano roll or <insert generic effect here> plugins. For example, maybe we'd want to automate the widths of any of the parameters, or the dry/wet balance on the delay, or the filter cutoff and resonance, etc.

I don't think that anybody is asking for the world here (or even to iron our shirts :P ), but at SE's price, host automation is not an unreasonable request IMO. Less expensive glitch plugins like Sugar Bytes' Artillery 2 and Effectrix have host automation. And, btw, 218 did not give SE a "-1" for not having host automation as you implied; to the contrary, he clearly offered the opinion that it's a quality plugin that would have an incremental increase in quality by adding host automation (see the quote above).

It would also be nice if it had MIDI learn so that we could use our controllers to tweak parameters when creating presets. I hate feeling tethered to a mouse sometimes. And, again, I don't think that's an unreasonable request since similar plugins (e.g., Artillery 2) have this feature.



edit: you guys beat me to it! :lol:
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I saw this at NAMM and absolutely loved it. I didn't know it didn't automate in your host, but still, it's a must have IMHO.

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Muzik 4 Machines wrote:exactly
id like to activate the scene(btw, 2 bars, seriously, my ER1 does 4) but grab lets say the buffer position(especially lol) and manipulate it with all other blocks continuing their automated scene(or be frozen, user choice) (i know we can use the mod, but it moves ALL parameters, i dislike that)

it wouldnt be hard to let us the choice of automation by host (or even midi CC(s) for each module parameter(s))
one doesnt exclude the other
I thought mod wheel controlled the buffer position... doesn't it?

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