Izotope buys BT's Sonik Architects (Stutter Edit now Released!)
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Sampleconstruct Sampleconstruct https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191286
- KVRAF
- 16732 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
Here is a demo for the Sci-Fi World Set processing a drone and pad sound with some snaps from this new Set.
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- KVRAF
- 2685 posts since 14 Jul, 2005 from Australia
Must say that I am a fan and am seriously thinking of buying it. Really really usable and sounds great.
I hope it's ok if I chime in on some of the negatives from my end, perhaps the feedback might be helpful:
- I do agree with everyone on the pricing front, $249 is really steep. I'm only considering it due to the $149 discount. I would of thought that the plugin would be sold at around $149 normally, max $199.
- In regards to the interface I do find certain aspects a little unclear. For example, it seems that certain modules won't function unless stutter is turned on. If this were the case, then those modules should not be selectable while stutter is off.
- I also found the interface a little too large, I suppose I notice this with my 1280x720 resolution (bad eyes).
- I notice a lack of resonance knob on the master filter, why is this? The resonance is too high by default?
- It seems that the plugin hogs keyboard focus in Cubase 4 here ... which means I can't use my regular shortcuts in Cubase while the plugin is in focus
- Finally, it seems that the only way to get visual indication of your entire patch is to open up the patch browser, would of been nice if this were better integrated in the plugin window somehow ... I suppose that would only make it bigger
Anyways, still love it, nice work! And much respect and love to BT, I've ben a fan for a long time and continue to be amazed by his work.
I hope it's ok if I chime in on some of the negatives from my end, perhaps the feedback might be helpful:
- I do agree with everyone on the pricing front, $249 is really steep. I'm only considering it due to the $149 discount. I would of thought that the plugin would be sold at around $149 normally, max $199.
- In regards to the interface I do find certain aspects a little unclear. For example, it seems that certain modules won't function unless stutter is turned on. If this were the case, then those modules should not be selectable while stutter is off.
- I also found the interface a little too large, I suppose I notice this with my 1280x720 resolution (bad eyes).
- I notice a lack of resonance knob on the master filter, why is this? The resonance is too high by default?
- It seems that the plugin hogs keyboard focus in Cubase 4 here ... which means I can't use my regular shortcuts in Cubase while the plugin is in focus
- Finally, it seems that the only way to get visual indication of your entire patch is to open up the patch browser, would of been nice if this were better integrated in the plugin window somehow ... I suppose that would only make it bigger
Anyways, still love it, nice work! And much respect and love to BT, I've ben a fan for a long time and continue to be amazed by his work.
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 17922 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
i am glad it is so ludicrously priced, being as i have other things to buy..not even gonna try the demo....what a shame
- KVRAF
- 3878 posts since 28 Jun, 2009 from Wherever I lay my hat
At the risk of repeating myself: why the hell would you want to? Use <insert generic effect here> for that. Is it so hard to press a goddamn button? If you don't like that, just use teh frikkin piano roll. Sheesh.218 wrote:Great plugin Izotope, very high quality, but would be even higher if it was possible to automate in your host!
Gee, I like my car a lot, but I wish it could iron my shirts, as well. -1 for my car.
Rant over. Apologies to all, may you live in blessed harmony and peace forever.
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Slinky Productions Slinky Productions https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=246619
- Banned
- 160 posts since 29 Dec, 2010
+1218 wrote:would be even higher if it was possible to automate in your host!
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- KVRAF
- 2685 posts since 14 Jul, 2005 from Australia
P.S.: There's also another bug when you choose the init <Empty> preset. Even though stutter is enabled it doesn't work. The only way to get it working is to disable it, click another key, click the same key again and the re-enable it.
Anyone able to repro this?
Anyone able to repro this?
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- KVRAF
- 7936 posts since 18 Feb, 2003 from out there somewhere
likewise. It's almost like they are targetting professionals...ebow wrote:i am glad it is so ludicrously priced, being as i have other things to buy..not even gonna try the demo....what a shame
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 17922 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
if i were a dj, i would probably be all over it...as it is, the effects seem far too obvious to make it into my recording work...i would imagine it providing good fodder for cutting up and rearranging in more subtle and effective ways, but then that defeats the whole purpose of the plugCypherOne wrote:likewise. It\'s almost like they are targetting professionals...ebow wrote:i am glad it is so ludicrously priced, being as i have other things to buy..not even gonna try the demo....what a shame
still $100 too expensive, imho
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- KVRist
- 195 posts since 21 Jul, 2004 from Brazil
+1
218 wrote:Great plugin Izotope, very high quality, but would be even higher if it was possible to automate in your host!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 482 posts since 30 Apr, 2008 from St Louis, MO
5 minute video quickly going thru a few StutterEdit presets by Richard Devine:
http://www.vimeo.com/18905925
Going through a couple of my gesture variations for the Stutter Edit plug-in. Using only one instance for this example and processing a single drum loop with no other plug-ins. The gesture effects are triggered by a M-Audio Oxygen-8 MIDI keyboard while changing to different banks in real-time.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11993 posts since 12 May, 2008
+1000218 wrote:Great plugin Izotope, very high quality, but would be even higher if it was possible to automate in your host!
I can't believe not a single control is automatable. Not even the master filter. No automation, no mapping the parameters to Kore controls or automap or any Native host mapping. No hardware control. Yay mouse. I wrote an email to support asking if this would be addressed. They said no plans to add automation support.
No it's not hard to hit a single key. But you also can't adjust the settings like speed and filter by hardware control or make any automation outside of what's written into that specific preset. Ever watched any videos of people using the finger or Artillery etc.? Half the fun is not just pressing a button but also tweaking controls live as well. It's cool and all that automation can be written into each preset, but common, how in 2011 is it not possible to control these parameters with hardware or host automation. It's ridiculous if you ask me.ariston wrote:At the risk of repeating myself: why the hell would you want to? Use <insert generic effect here> for that. Is it so hard to press a goddamn button? If you don't like that, just use teh frikkin piano roll. Sheesh.218 wrote:Great plugin Izotope, very high quality, but would be even higher if it was possible to automate in your host!
Gee, I like my car a lot, but I wish it could iron my shirts, as well. -1 for my car.![]()
Rant over. Apologies to all, may you live in blessed harmony and peace forever.
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Muzik 4 Machines Muzik 4 Machines https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=9550
- KVRAF
- 7829 posts since 6 Oct, 2003 from Quebec
exactly
id like to activate the scene(btw, 2 bars, seriously, my ER1 does 4) but grab lets say the buffer position(especially lol) and manipulate it with all other blocks continuing their automated scene(or be frozen, user choice) (i know we can use the mod, but it moves ALL parameters, i dislike that)
it wouldnt be hard to let us the choice of automation by host (or even midi CC(s) for each module parameter(s))
one doesnt exclude the other
id like to activate the scene(btw, 2 bars, seriously, my ER1 does 4) but grab lets say the buffer position(especially lol) and manipulate it with all other blocks continuing their automated scene(or be frozen, user choice) (i know we can use the mod, but it moves ALL parameters, i dislike that)
it wouldnt be hard to let us the choice of automation by host (or even midi CC(s) for each module parameter(s))
one doesnt exclude the other
- KVRAF
- 12172 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
Because it would give you control over the individual parameters within each module. That's not the same as using the piano roll or <insert generic effect here> plugins. For example, maybe we'd want to automate the widths of any of the parameters, or the dry/wet balance on the delay, or the filter cutoff and resonance, etc.ariston wrote:At the risk of repeating myself: why the hell would you want to?218 wrote:Great plugin Izotope, very high quality, but would be even higher if it was possible to automate in your host!
I don't think that anybody is asking for the world here (or even to iron our shirts
It would also be nice if it had MIDI learn so that we could use our controllers to tweak parameters when creating presets. I hate feeling tethered to a mouse sometimes. And, again, I don't think that's an unreasonable request since similar plugins (e.g., Artillery 2) have this feature.
edit: you guys beat me to it!
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- KVRist
- 450 posts since 22 Aug, 2007 from Los Angeles
I saw this at NAMM and absolutely loved it. I didn't know it didn't automate in your host, but still, it's a must have IMHO.
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- KVRian
- 1439 posts since 25 Nov, 2008 from Seattle, WA
I thought mod wheel controlled the buffer position... doesn't it?Muzik 4 Machines wrote:exactly
id like to activate the scene(btw, 2 bars, seriously, my ER1 does 4) but grab lets say the buffer position(especially lol) and manipulate it with all other blocks continuing their automated scene(or be frozen, user choice) (i know we can use the mod, but it moves ALL parameters, i dislike that)
it wouldnt be hard to let us the choice of automation by host (or even midi CC(s) for each module parameter(s))
one doesnt exclude the other


