Eventide BLACKHOLE Plug-in Officially Released

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SteveWZ wrote:
chk071 wrote:As obviously a lot of people chain their reverbs, how do i have to understand the effect of chaining? Do the reverbs simply get layered? Or do you set some kind of predelay. So that the signal of the first reverb, if possible, controls when the chained reverb should start? Also, do you apply some special settings so the signal doesn't get muddy or anything? I listened the examples from Simon, when he chained Blachole and Shimmer, and it sounds really nice, and i like the looong tail. Just wondering if there's some special trick to not get it too muddy, which i would suspect would happen, when reverbs get layered.
What I have found is that running reverbs parallel tends to have more clarity in the final mix.
Having said that, running small reverbs with little pre-delay into a larger reverb will work better then running a large reverb into another large reverb.

A different effect like chorus, EQ, or delays, will often give better results when running effects in a chain.

But, experimentation has no rules.....
Thanks, that's really helpful. :tu:

Btw, that product video is one of the sickest product videos i've ever seen from any company. Well done, Eventide. :lol:
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Couldn't resist the price at JRR. Stupid cheap for what it is... :)
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sidrat wrote:Couldn't resist the price at JRR
Me neither... :help:
Stupid cheap for what it is... :)
Well, it isn't that much actually is it? The reverb has about six parameters or so...
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Blue Phase Music wrote:
SLiC wrote:I love valhala shimmer, but I bought blackhole as well at this new low price (under 50 bucks) and have enjoyed playing with it. I think they both found good, but if I could only have one it would be shimmer as it can do the 'blackhole' type large ambient verbs and a lot more. It's all about the base sound you put the reverb on, from a big poly synth patch to a simple accoustic guitar, I can get great results with shimmer (but I do like blackhole as well, not sure I realy need both, but I have enjoyed playing with it and there are some cool presets included)
Thank you.

Based on this and a couple of other posts in this thread, I'll skip BH and go with Shimmer, as long as I can get something similar to BH with Shimmer, I figure, why not? I Doubt I need both.

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Okay, after the recommendations of getting Extraordinary Spaces, I'm giving the BH demo an honest try. :)
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Damn. Shouldn'na said nothin'. I'll be picking this up later today. I played with the demo and pretty much fell in love with this verb. To me, even with the BlackHole preset and the adjustments earlier in this thread, it sounded significantly different from Shimmer to me, but then again, I purchased the Extraordinary Spaces presets to try with the BlackHole demo so maybe that made it sound significantly better. Amazing presets, those!
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I agree, shimmer and Blackhole are 2 different reverbs.

Both have totally unique qualities that make then stand individually.
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Blue Phase Music wrote:

Damn. ....I purchased the Extraordinary Spaces presets to try with the BlackHole demo so maybe that made it sound significantly better. Amazing presets, those!
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jens wrote:
sidrat wrote:Couldn't resist the price at JRR
Me neither... :help:
Stupid cheap for what it is... :)
Well, it isn't that much actually is it? The reverb has about six parameters or so...
Actually, for $200 it seemed a tad overpriced (to say it mildly), but for the actual price, it's kind of a no-brainer i guess. Really sounds very good.
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TheoM wrote:
SteveWZ wrote:
Blue Phase Music wrote:

Damn. ....I purchased the Extraordinary Spaces presets to try with the BlackHole demo so maybe that made it sound significantly better. Amazing presets, those!
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

more info? Is this a blackhole preset pack?
Here you go TheoM:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 7&t=458655
Play it by ear
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I bought it at full price, and would do so again. This campaign is so weird, hopefully it means some new product with an upgrade path is coming soon.
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another :tu: for extraordinary spaces
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Bought for $41.65 (jrrshop) and fills the gap between ValhallaShimmer very nice.

2x Blackhole on most "important" sounds (all leads) and 2x Shimmer (besides ValhallaVintage) used on a track I'm working on.
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Nice. :tu: Love the spacey sound of Blackhole.
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chk071 wrote:
SteveWZ wrote:
chk071 wrote:As obviously a lot of people chain their reverbs, how do i have to understand the effect of chaining? Do the reverbs simply get layered? Or do you set some kind of predelay. So that the signal of the first reverb, if possible, controls when the chained reverb should start? Also, do you apply some special settings so the signal doesn't get muddy or anything? I listened the examples from Simon, when he chained Blachole and Shimmer, and it sounds really nice, and i like the looong tail. Just wondering if there's some special trick to not get it too muddy, which i would suspect would happen, when reverbs get layered.
What I have found is that running reverbs parallel tends to have more clarity in the final mix.
Having said that, running small reverbs with little pre-delay into a larger reverb will work better then running a large reverb into another large reverb.

A different effect like chorus, EQ, or delays, will often give better results when running effects in a chain.

But, experimentation has no rules.....
Thanks, that's really helpful. :tu:
No problem, glad you got some use from it.
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